in summer 2023, when I moved here from reddit, the lemmy instance beehaw.org was extremely divisive. they wanted to create a website according to certain rules rather than a free for all. some people were saying it would be the end of the threadiverse before it even began.

since that time, there have been various other intrinsic and extrinsic threats. I do not see much panicking about beehaw. did the threadiverse survive beehaw? or is this only a shell of what we might have had otherwise?

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[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Lemmy.ml is just as bad. I suggested Nicaragua wasn't a democratic country. Holy shit!! I got downvoted to hell, pasted left and right. Given 24hr ban.

Then I got a 4-day ban cos I suggested "Tankies give socialists like me a bad name". Fucking hell fire. I'm not going near any of their subs again.

[–] doidera@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

I got downvoted to hell

What's wrong with downvoting? Ain't it expected when the community allow downvotes?
Do you think everyone should agree with you always?

Then I got a 4-day ban cos I suggested “Tankies give socialists like me a bad name”. Fucking hell fire. I’m not going near any of their subs again.

I am curious, what current of socialism do you subscribe to?

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Do you think everyone should agree with you always?

No of course not but I subscribe to the original Reddiquette philosophy. Downvotes arne't for disagreement. They were originally a form of user-moderation to stop spam. Unfortunately about a decade ago after the Digg exodus the users of Reddit forgot that original usage and so you'd end up being downvoted and not knowing why. It doesn't foster debate or discussion. It's a cheap way to snipe someone down without being responsible or engaging them.

I never, ever downvote unless it's obvious link spam. If I feel strongly enough I tell the person they're wrong and why. That's what I believe in.

I am curious, what current of socialism do you subscribe to?

Libertarian Socialism. In the UK the closest parties/groups would be Black Rose Labour and/or Jeremy Corbyn's Labour. The countries closest to my beliefs are Denmark, Iceland and Norway.

However, the people on Lemmy.ml took further offence when I suggested DPRK wasn't a democratic country and they trotted out a list of articles on how democratic it really was. Then I was given a bunch of Stalin emojis of him pulling heart shapes with his hands.

I'm not a fan of autocratic dictatorships and I was dog-piled and taunted with a bunch of Stalinist and DPRK memes. Because apparently you're not truly left-wing unless you worship Stalin and Kim.

I would have been happy to debate these points with them but unfortunately my reticence of autocratic dictatorships was considered far worse than what was directed at me in response.

[–] Blaze 1 points 10 months ago

No of course not but I subscribe to the original Reddiquette philosophy. Downvotes arne’t for disagreement. They were originally a form of user-moderation to stop spam. Unfortunately about a decade ago after the Digg exodus the users of Reddit forgot that original usage and so you’d end up being downvoted and not knowing why. It doesn’t foster debate or discussion. It’s a cheap way to snipe someone down without being responsible or engaging them.

Very true, and that's why I'm more and more inclined to use an instance without downvotes. With the report button available, downvotes just seem like a shortcut for hivemind.

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