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Is the bot/troll situation getting worse? (lemmy.giftedmc.com)

submitted 11 months ago by haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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It feels like the amount of both, divisive posts and ghoulish comments is rising again.

One could argue that the world has a lot of divisive stuff going on and lemmy just talks about it. But the way people post about stuff seems more oot and hateful than it has been in the past.

Not saying it is that but if I wanted to bring the Fediverse down or at least keep my customers from going there, I would sow this stuff as much as I can.

I'm blocking ghouls left right and center atm but if I ever asked a friend to join lemmy, I'd hate to think of what they would see that I dont anymore.

Do we need stronger moderation?

Maybe ban politics from c/memes?
Become a little more stringent on "dont be a jerk" rules in communities?

One thing that really bothers me is the collapsing "discourse". Trying to mend fences and keep the conversation between sides going ime leads to nothing but downvotes and shitstorm.

I feel like a little more interaction (instead of intervention, at first) of the moderators would do wonders there.

Thanks for reading this rant. Have a nice day.

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[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (17 children)

If I was designing an anti troll/bot system I'd implement a few things. Let's call any bad actor on here a bot/troll or broll for ease.

Reputation based posting isn't a bad idea if carefully done
When a broll is banned any users from the same ip are flagged a suspect and a subsequent ban causes delayed posting from that ip. If a VPN the instance host list has the same effect applied. Exceptions based on Reputation.
You can check if text is ai/llm generated and an automated api check before posting and immediate ban if found.
Checks on if a user posts inhumanly fast or is oddly active etc would be sensible.
Any broll system has to be adaptive and measures taken need to be kept secret (this post for example).

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Very good ideas! Any idea if something like this already exists? If not, shall we work on something? I have some experience in python if that helps.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

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