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[–] daniyeg@lemmy.ml 32 points 9 months ago (12 children)

it's not the responsibility of voters to vote for certain politicians, it's the responsibility of the politicians to represent people so they vote for them.

if you think joe biden is gonna lose then you gotta force joe biden to take more popular positions (he is literally running right now it's the time you make up your platform), not yell at people "refusing" to vote for him as if they are just petulant children refusing to eat their veggies and act like the most logical and rational option is locking your vote for joe biden and whoever disagrees just cannot understand the correctness of your reasoning.

(to be clear i'm not american but it's just ridiculous how many times i have heard this exact song and dance)

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 months ago (9 children)

You're living in a fantasy world. The reality is that we have a not great candidate, and a REALLY BAD candidate. The people voting for the REALLY BAD candidate are die hard zealots. We really don't want the REALLY BAD candidate to win because it would be the end of democracy in the US, so the only ethical option is to vote for the other popular candidate, the not great candidate.

[–] Lunar@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Democracy ended in the US the moment voters felt it necessary to unconditionally support the man aiding a genocide because the only alternative on the ballot is someone even worse.

The Democratic Party will never become introspective and seek to improve in any meaningful way because they know they already have your vote for the above reason. Not only that, but they create the conditions for it by donating to far-right politicians with the purpose of ensuring victories in elections.

If the Democratic party was given reason to think they'd lose support from their voter base, they would actually be compelled to start implementing popular policies. This is something you people could be doing instead of shaming people for not being okay with the backing of a literal genocide.

Nothing is going to improve unless you leverage the power of bargaining. As it stands now you're only slightly delaying America's further descent into Fascism and barely protecting what little you have left, which won't even last as the Overton window keeps moving to the right with each election because of what the Democrats are doing.

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