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Oracle responds to Red Hat

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[–] daguito81@waveform.social 38 points 1 year ago (22 children)

This is hilarious considering one of the main reasons IBM is clamping down on RHEL is because they are literally taking RHEL, changed the stickers to "Oracle" and calls it a day to sell their own propietary shit. Of course they are against RedHat closing down RHEL, they need it to compile Oracle Linux.

I don't like what RedHat is doing (or IBM, however you want to see it) but cheering for Oracle on this particular issue is just wrong

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (11 children)

What I don't understand is: who is using oracle linux? Never heard of a single person or company using it?

One must be really far from linux to choose oracle linux among hundreds of available distros

[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Me neither. And I always wondered why you wouldn't just go directly to the source and go with RedHat for enterprise usecases. Perhaps cheaper support contracts?

[–] smo@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We struggled with red hat because our product is usually in airgapped installations. We know how many we’ve sold, but we don’t know how many are still in use.

Say a customer buys one unit. Then 5 years later, they replace it. And 5 years on, they replace it again. On the books that’s 3 sold. We don’t know that two were retired, we don’t know these are all the same installation. So red hat wants us to pay 3 annual licences for this, and those licences don’t end until we can prove the installation was retired. The costs effectively snowball indefinitely.

We wanted to pay - it was the easiest route to certain federal qualifications. But we couldn’t come to an agreement on how to pay.

[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah ic, thanks for sharing your experience! So which RHEL derivative did you end up going with?

[–] smo@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rocky for now, but I can’t say that’s set in stone

[–] garam@lemmy.my.id 1 points 1 year ago

Rocky still walkaround using UBI source, and it's open, so in the end it's 99.99% compatible with RHEL.

Just fuck CIQ with their contract...

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