TL;DR: The common view on Meta’s Threads is that it will be either all good or all bad, leading to oversimplified and at the end contra productive propositions like the Fedipact. But in reality, it’s behaviour will most likely change dynamically over time, and therefore, to prevent us getting in a position, in which Threads can actually perform EEE on us, we need to adapt a dynamic strategy as well.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (25 children)

What do you mean by not afford to?

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (24 children)

https://www.theverge.com/23990974/social-media-2023-fediverse-mastodon-threads-activitypub

In this article, The Verge is describing what they think may happen to the Fediverse in the next years: big time commercialization.

Now the current Fediverse can either try to adapt to this new stage and try to grow with it; or block it out entirely and stay small. These two factions are by some called "big" and "small fedi".

I'm a supporter of "big fedi", because I think people will just move to other instances that federate with the big ones if we don't. From my perspective, a big bull is charging right at us. We can either jump on it, ride it and try to taim it; or get trampled dead by it.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

From my perspective, a big bull is charging right at us. We can either jump on it, ride it and try to taim it; or get trampled dead by it.

It's already proven that it is a mistake to jump on the bull (or, for matter of analogy, the smart truck) and try to tame it. it's already engineered and moved by big money so that its controls will never be available to us. Smarter than trying to tame it (a useless fight) or leave ourselves be trampled by it (a useless sacrifice), we can simply jump aside.

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why is it proven? Also: isn't the whole Fediverse situation kind of unique?

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing unique to the current Fediverse situation. In the days of old people had their own web pages and web servers too, and we had protocols to announce changes to people too (hello? RSS? X-Headers?), we linked to each other as well (directories, webrings) and we had chat (IRC). Yet we still landed on CorpoNet.

In fact I'd surmise the current situation is worse. Whereas with the old ad tried protocols you could actually host a web server with content on a potato, or on an old beeper, nu-protocols tend to be quite resource hungry. I oft hear that people have to pay two bills for Mastodon: one for the web service and another one for the amont of storage and traffic that it generates; from what I hear Matrix is similarly heavy compared to, say, IRC or XMPP. Dunno if it's still true or not but I also recall that stuff like Lemmy depends on DNS, meaning you have to be able to buy your own domain and depend on that kind of central authority (wasn't the point of Fediverse stuff to be decentralized?). Rather recently a good amount of Lemmy servers were oopsied because one of the .tld authorities pulled the rug from under an entire top-level domain name.

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I meant unique in the size and numbers of users. I think at a certain point, you will lose some beginner-friendliness if you want it to scale.

Dunno if it’s still true or not but I also recall that stuff like Lemmy depends on DNS, meaning you have to be able to buy your own domain and depend on that kind of central authority (wasn’t the point of Fediverse stuff to be decentralized?)

Well, then you could just as well call the web itself not enough dezentralized. The Fediverse just builds on that.

Rather recently a good amount of Lemmy servers were oopsied because one of the .tld authorities pulled the rug from under an entire top-level domain name.

Ok, that's not so great

load more comments (1 replies)

load more comments (21 replies)