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Google search failed to even find a hollywood movie, even after 1 hour of attempts. I don't really care about the movie, but I am terrified by the prospect that google now ceased to function on this basic level. Why is this happening?

I understand the explanations of seo and other stuff like spam content. But why are there NO relevant results at all.

I wouldn't mind having to start wading through results at page 2 or even 10 but now it utterly fails to find even the most basic things.

Things you found on the first attempt even just a year ago. Now they are effectively hidden.

To me functionally the entire internet has now vanished. I cannot access anything that I am searching for. Might as well not exist at all.

Has anybody found a way around this?

Is this on purpose? Is this an attack on the free internet, herding people to just the top 5 sites like facebook, youtube, tiktok, and so forth?

Are there search engines that still work?

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[–] FlatFootFox@lemmy.world 151 points 10 months ago (58 children)

The signal to noise ratio has seemed particularly out of wack with Google lately. The amount of blog spam SEO nonsense that crops up into the top 4 results has been pretty noticeable.

I’m not sure it’s entirely a Google thing. Reddit’s decline has made it harder to find quick answers for, “My washing machine’s making this weird string of beeps?” Niche hobbies moving from forums to Discord chats means, “How do I safely remove a keycap without damaging the switch?” is becoming a pinned message in a server you have to hear about via word of mouth. Basically any technology troubleshooting topic has moved from a blog post / forum to a YouTube video. And a 10 minute long one at that. Gotta hit those higher ad tiers.

For what it’s worth, I’m starting the new year off giving Kagi a try. It’s a startup trying to make a paid search engine work. You get 100 free searches to give it a try. After that it’s $5/mo for 300 searches, or $10/mo for unlimited. I’m not sure I’ll sign up for it just yet, but it seems pretty nice. No ads, custom components for things like Stack Overflow and Reddit, and some other nice touches for people who care about search. Their image search actually has a “View Image” link in addition to the “View Page” link. It’s hard to quantify how “good” a search result is, but I’ve been pretty impressed with it so far.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Kagi is very good and I'm happy to be paying for it, but you were right in your second paragraph. It's not all google. Signal to noise in the web has gone way off. We need to throw out this Internet, it's gone bad

[–] send_me_your_ink@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Story time! There is series by Tad Williams called "otherland" - it's a rift in the standard stuck in vr story.

Anywho. There is a group of hackers, weirdos and nerds who did not like the corporate vr experience and built their own (treehouse). In all honesty it's an expansion of the tor project.

But it's what I hope for. A place to end up in the web that's not saturated to hell and back by corporate interests, and you need to know someone for the ladder to be let down and you to be let in.

[–] NotAFakeHumanoid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just started book 2 in the series, and so far I'm loving it, it feels so topical at the moment. Plus I really like Tad's writing. This series is the first I've read of his, but I'm deff gonna grab more of his work.

[–] send_me_your_ink@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago

Fair warning. For me book 3 was a bit of a slog, but seeing everything come together in book 4 was worth it.

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