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Has anyone seen any posts from them? Do they ruining our federation or violating server rules yet? We can defederate them anytime if they would start spamming or being rude to our community members.
that's not the main concern, EEE is the main concern (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish). We've seen it with XMPP and I'm afraid history is about to repeat itself if we don't do anything about it.
No one EEE'd XMPP. XMPP still exists and is in use today. It is an IETF standard now if I remember correctly. Commonly integrated into SIP packages. And is used quietly as the back end for many small IM systems and that we will probably never be specifically told about. I personally use it regularly to communicate with people who have never heard of it.
What happened is that a lot of people wasted a lot of time and resources trying to get Google to play along with them. Rather than just developing their software the way they wanted to. The fact of the matter is. No IM system from that time is still in widespread used today. MSN messenger is basically gone. The same with ICQ. AOL instant messenger? Nobody uses it. Even Skype today is struggling and rarely brought up.
And if you think socialists of any stripe let alone the ML variety are going to change their plans to fawn over a corporation, you don't understand socialists. And let's be clear here. As a general rule, anyone that uses threads will likely never use Lemmy. And vice versa. Lemmy is safe.
To further illustrate my point. No one has EEEd email, useNet, http, Java, Linux or any other similar system. And they have tried very hard.