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AI singer-songwriter 'Anna Indiana' debuted her first single 'Betrayed by this Town' on X, formerly Twitter—and listeners were not too impressed.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 145 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (95 children)

There can be nothing new or original out of AI because all of its inputs are stolen from what already exists. Real creativity comes solely from humans. Also, that clip - the song, singing, and visual - is dreadful in every way.

This needs to be hammered into techbro's heads until they shut the fuck up about the so-called "AI" revolution.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I see it an more an inability to analyze, evaluate, and edit. A lot of "creativity" in the world of musical composition is putting together existing elements and seeing what happens. Any composer from pop to the very avant-garde, is influenced and sometimes even borrow from their predecessors (it's why copyright law is so complex in music).

It's the ability to make judgements, does this sound good/interesting, does this have value, would anyone want to listen to this, and adjust accordingly that will lead to something original and great. Humans are so good at this, we might be making edits before the notes hit the page (Brainstorming). This AI clearly wasn't. And deciding on value, seems wildly complex for modern day computers. Humans can agree on it (if you like Rock, but hate country for example).

So in the end, they are "creative" but in a monkey-typewritter situation, but who is going to sort through the billions of songs like this to find the one masterpiece?

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

but who is going to sort through the billions of songs like this to find the one masterpiece?

One of the overlooked aspects of generative AI is that effectively by definition generative models can also be classifiers.

So let's say you were Spotify and you fed into an AI all the songs as well as the individual user engagement metadata for all those songs.

You'd end up with a model that would be pretty good at effectively predicting the success of a given song on Spotify.

So now you can pair a purely generative model with the classifier, so you spit out song after song but only move on to promoting it if the classifier thinks there's a high likelihood of it being a hit.

Within five years systems like what I described above will be in place for a number of major creative platforms, and will be a major profit center for the services sitting on audience metadata for engagement with creative works.

[–] InquisitiveFactotum@midwest.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right, the trick will be quantifying what is 'likely to be a hit', which if we're honest, has already been done.

Also, neural networks and other evolutionary algorithms can inject random perturbations/mutations to the system which, operate a bit like uninformed creativity (something like banging on a piano and hearing something interesting that's worth pursuing). So, while not 'inspired' or 'soulful' as we would generally think of it, these algorithms are capable of being creative In some sense. But it would need to be recognized as 'good' by someone or something...and back to your point.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

What you described in your second paragraph is basically how image generation AI works.

Starting from random noise and gradually moving towards the version a classifier identifies as best matching the prompt.

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