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A reminder that oil companies invented “carbon footprint” to distract you while they continue to pollute. Form unions and solidarity networks to overcome harmful systems. Don’t argue over hamburgers.
These companies pollute to satisfy a demand. If people stopped driving cars, TotalEnergy and Shell would sell less oil.
Where these companies are evil is when they try to influence people and politicians. For example jay walking is a crime because of them.
That said taxing the hell out of these polluting industries is a solution, as it will raise the oil price and force people to consume less.
It's not only cars, there are power plants running on oil, nearly every "small" backup generator runs on diesel. Also logistics, trucks, trains and ships needs boatloads of diesel.
The person you're replying to said that if people stopped driving cars, companies would sell less oil.
You seem to disagree, and your argument is that energy and shipping use oil.
Are you saying that a carfree world would consume exactly the same amount of oil, because it still has energy and shipping?
I had the wrong assumption that cars consumed nowhere as much oil as those things. Turns out I was dead wrong - https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10661
industry creates its own demand.