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How to show what separates emacs from other IDEs (alien.top)
submitted 11 months ago by Both_Confidence_4147@alien.top to c/emacs@communick.news
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I talked to someone about the extensibility of emacs, but the person I was speaking to assumed that any IDE is just as extensible by using Plug Ins.

Without turning the conversation into a university style lecture, what is one or two simple actions I can do in emacs to show someone what separates it from other IDES.

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[–] codemuncher@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Once you’ve done things for a few years, it’s frustrating to be at the whims of ide developers. Remember the last must have ide? Atom. Gone. The needs of a multinational conglomerate comes before yours comrade. All animals are equal and Microsoft is the most equal.

Even IntelliJ - which is a great ide - is at the whim of how much jetbrains can make their business model work.

I like emacs because I’m off someone else’s upgrade schedule and forced obsolescence. My usage isn’t being measure and put into a data warehouse where some pm can figure out how to monetize. No vendor lock in. No data format lock in. This is the killer feature. I don’t have to give up my data to someone else’s cloud, I don’t have to agree to some restrictive license. I can just be, and compute without someone else needing to interject their wallet between me and my computer!

[–] ClerkOfCopmanhurst@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Remember the last must-have ide? Atom. Gone.

You've confused active development with source code availability. Atom is just as open to improvements as emacs is. The difference is the number of programmers reading atom's support channel is determined by how much they're getting paid by microsoft whereas those reading emacs's is determined by how long they can go without employment. I won't say which camp contains the better programmers. I will say I never got past my first-round interview at Microsoft.