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[–] Potato_in_my_anus@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (11 children)

And there are lots of people who think Russia is Socialist...

[–] IdealShrew@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

not that it is, but even if it was, what does socialism have to do with this?

[–] FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

General left of center demonization. This person is lamenting the pattern that will likely continue that consists of things less left than communism (in this case, socialism) being treated as equally "scary" or "nefarious" as communism, in the McCarthy era Red Scare definitions of scary/nefarious (unless I'm misreading, but that seems to be what's happening here)

[–] IdealShrew@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i read it as suggesting that in socialism there would be no discrimination of lgbt people

[–] FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Oh i get what you're pointing out now, yeah, it is kinda weird to just assume all leftists are pro-lgbtqia.

It seems like every combination of person, no matter how seemingly contradictory vibes-wise, exists in some form or another lol

Like it's weird, I am doing the same lumping pattern that I know I shouldn't be in the same breath as acknowledging that it's weird to do that pattern lol cognitive dissonance is weird when you notice it...

[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean it was prevailing communist theory in Stalin's era that being queer was "bourgeois degeneracy"

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Lenin decriminalized it. Castro did both.

[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If by "did both" you mean for 20 years sent queer people to reeducation camps before ultimately decriminalizing it when Mariela Castro was 17, sure.

[–] Potato_in_my_anus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking here in general... If you watch the socialist governments, they support the LGBTQ community, whereas the right governments, because they're religious don't support the LGBTQ. So, all the socialist governments like Mexico's, Cuba, Chile, Venezuela, etc are in cahoots with Russia and they say because Russia is Socialist.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm pretty sure it's just the brainwashed tankies calling Russia socialist, and even then it's usually more of a "They aren't socialist anymore but they're anti America and therefore good" sort of thing.

I've never seen a government with a communist party refer to Russia as socialist.

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