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[–] drearymoon@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (125 children)

carnists, if this somehow gives you pause, consider that if it is morally permissible to kill and torture animals for enjoyment...

admit it. im-vegan's are right

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Genuinely curious, how do vegans think of indigenous diets and their consumption of animals? Many of the critiques I see here apply to industrial consumption of meat.

And how would you respond to the argument that vegans are propagating an unscientific belief in the supercession of nature by humans in a way similar to Christian dominionists, that sees us as unique actors capable of transcending a mutual relationship with nature whereas our inferiors (all other animals that eat animals) are incapable of moral action?

Also I've heard people argue that consuming plants also causes them distress and should be avoided. Would you reply to that in any way or is it silly?

Not here to argue, genuinely just want to know how vegans think about these questions. If you want.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I've seen vegans disagree on the matter of indigenous diets. I'm not sure what most agree on, but I can say vegans are way more focused on ending animal-eating in the context of industrialized society.

Not a vegan but we crossed that bridge the moment agriculture was invented. As for animals incapable of moral actions... I have yet to see a vegan seriously propose the end of natural predation. You're fighting ghosts or I'm misunderstanding.

You can check the r/vegan threads from when that was making the rounds. Plants don't feel pain. Even if they did, you'd cause more beings pain eating meat cause animals eat plants.

[–] LadyStalin@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

White people don't get to have opinions on that of natives, you don't deserve it anymore. Im begging to think that veganism isn't a normal topic here, but some constant struggle to maintain.

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

When the last vegan subthread dies on this website, Yog-Sothoth emerges from their million year slumber to devour our world.

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