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[–] blitzkrieg@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Yet you'll hear everyone say "Hamas is the reason for all the problems".

Well, Hamas doesn't exist in the west bank, so why are people there getting killed and their land stolen by Israeli settlers and the IDF?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Hamas exists in the West Bank but they’re not in power. Still wouldn’t excuse illegal settlements even if they were in charge

[–] blitzkrieg@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, the problem isn't Hamas, the problem is Israel wants to invade Palestine and take all of the land. That is their true purpose.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

And genocide the Palestinians.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hamas is a problem too and funded through Iran so I think they’d still be an issue even without the settler bs

[–] blitzkrieg@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have just established that Israel wants to take all Palestinian lands, that is the problem.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There can be and is more than one problem. Iran and their network of paramilitary forces throughout the region is a problem with or without Israel.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Without Israeli settler colonialism there would be no Hamas

[–] blitzkrieg@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's what most western people refuse to understand.

[–] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please stop justifying genocide

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes please also stop justifying genocide by disagreeing with a basic statement like "HAMAS is also a problem"

[–] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please stop using whataboutism to justify genocide.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's not whataboutism, both are wrong.

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