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At work we somehow landed on the topic of how many holes a human has, which then evolved into a heated discussion on the classic question of how many holes does a straw have.

I think it's two, but some people are convinced that it's one, which I just don't understand. What are your thoughts?

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[–] Nemo@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago (14 children)

A regular straw has zero holes. The central cavity, through which beverages flow, is not part of the straw, and hence it's endpoints are not holes in the straw.

[–] paholg@lemmy.one 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A straw is topologically the same as a donut. It absolutely has one hole.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doughnuts don't have holes, "donutholes" notwithstanding. A doughnut is a torus. If you poke through the side of a doughnut, then it has a hole.

[–] paholg@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take a pancake. Put a hole in it. It's now a torus.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Sure, but it's a pancake with a hole in it. Pancakes ought to be disks (which is, topologically, a squashed sphere).

If you put a hole in a doughnut it is no longer a torus. A hole deforms the manifold of an object.

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