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[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 97 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

The great misunderstanding of hard left leaning western folks is that neither Russia nor China are socialist or communist.

Just like their hard right leaning counterparts they’re stuck in a mindset from the first half of the past century.

[–] mnoram@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think I'm confused. I haven't seen any left leaning people support Russia or China. It's right leaning people that support them. What am I missing? Also I've never seen any left leaning people say Russia and China are actually socialist or communist since the 80s or 90s. I've seen right leaning people claim that lefties believe that but never any examples in real life.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Left and right is not a defined group, it’s a name and any group can pretend/think they belong to it.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

The most support for China is basic materialist analysis: they've heavily invested in housing, high speed rail, electric car infrastructure, and green energy. Coincidentally: all rather related.

But that is generally the support associated with China: a materialist analysis, usually, if not always, regarding infrastructure.

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