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So I take you support a ceasefire and negotiations to end the Russia - Ukraine war?
Stop conflating two separate issues. If you want to discuss how the Palestinians have accomplished nothing but their own suffering, while having nothing to show for it, then I'm all ears. Ukraine is separate topic that I'm more than willing to discuss but not in regards to the current terrorist attacks that have taken place today all throughout Israel
If you want to defend acts of Israeli apartheid towards Palestinians, I'm not going to listen. I'm South African, I oppose apartheid everywhere. As Nelson Mandela said, our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinian people.
I will not defend the killing of civilians by any side. That is morally unjustifiable. I will be clear however, that violence begets violence, and Israel has been indiscriminately bombing civilians (a terrorist tactic), and stealing land and homes for decades. The way to end this is to stop the violence, and come to the negotiation table. A two state solution of some sort is a compromise that is desperately needed to ease tensions.
I can change the place names in your quote a bit and you sound exactly like the typical boilerplate response of a 1970s-80s South African pro-Apartheid liberal whining about how "uMkontho we Sizwe is too violent". Just flatly admit that you support the Apartheid rule and the list of crimes perpetrated by the Israeli government.
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No, they just double tap buildings to kill rescuers. Very noble.