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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (10 children)

This highlights to me more and more that we probably need to be involving ourselves in a massive and organised way in natopedia editing.

We're at least 15 years too late for that. Feds have full-time jobs as Wikipedia editors. All that rules-lawyering bullshit is either something that heavily advantages full-time jobs editors who get paid to memorize those rules or something completely conceived by them in the first place. Plus, I think Jimbo Wales or some Wikipedia higher-up has fed connections, so there's that as well.

At this point, it's better to start a campaign that discredits Wikpedia as a source rather than attempt to change it from within. If you go to /r/askhistorians, they constantly shit on Wikipedia, so it's not just those tankie commies who don't like Wikipedia. Wikipedia has always sucked for anything not related to the hard sciences, and even for that, there's plenty that it gets wrong.

Just call people who link Wikipedia a pseud who doesn't know how to read books.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I don't see how a wikipedia discrediting campaign is going to achieve much. People have discredited wikipedia ever since it started. I recall even teachers in schools discrediting wikipedia. None of it sticks.

[–] pillow@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

teachers always had the angle that wikipedia is bad because the mere rabble editing it don't have staid institutional reputation behind them. it was always obvious to everyone else, though, that wikipedia does a fine job of interpreting the sources. wikipedia is consistently useful as an aggregator of mainstream sources

the only way to attack it I think is with vandalism. add incorrect information like slightly wrong dates, wrong distances to astronomical objects, and wrong molecular weights of chemicals; mix up physics theorems with subtly-incorrect contrapositives; replace working code with pseudocode that doesn't quite handle the edge cases. make people as frustrated with wikipedia as they are with quora! then wikipedia will become irrelevant.

it won't change all of the liberalism that wikipedia was collecting in the first place, but

  • it'll be harder to find anything at all so people will trust their lived experience more
  • it'll be on more equal footing with weird fringe stuff in search results instead of being woven into a whole authoritative-sounding encyclopedic narrative
  • it won't be laundered through wikipedia's "community consensus" on reliable sources

death to wikipedia

[–] userse31@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Sprinkles extra spaces everywhere.

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