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[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 69 points 1 year ago (51 children)

A truly better signal is one that's not using a centralized service.

[–] ccx@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Look at https://simplex.im/ then. It's work in progress but the design is good.

But I'm glad to have a better Signal client too.

[–] Gilgamesh@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

A wonderful chat application indeed! Wish SimpleX was built with Material You support though.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The page isn't loading currently… What protocol is it using? and if neither XMPP or Matrix, then why even bother?

[–] jack@monero.town 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The site is https://simplex.chat . It uses it's own simplex protocol. There are no permanent user identifiers with SimpleX which gives a lot more privacy and independence. Here's a comparison: https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/docs/SIMPLEX.md#comparison-with-other-protocols

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It appears to be P2P, so, just like federated protocols, they are good in my book compared to centralized silos.
But I have yet to find a P2P chat protocol that works well in practice on mobile (energy efficiency/battery usage is a real concern, and mitigating it in practice means losing the benefits of P2P without the advantages of federated).

[–] jack@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago

SimpleX is not purely P2P as there are servers that forward the messages. The battery consumption is still too high with SimpleX, but that can and is being worked on

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