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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (58 children)

I would feel a lot better about it if we treated cattle with existential respect while they gather for our consumption.

But capitalism does not do that to humans so hoping for mad cow respect in the US is about largely remembering about the fatal neurodegenerative disease of cattle.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (55 children)

Just go buy your meat directly from a farmer that only raises a few each year and that lets the cows roam free, it's not impossible to buy meat that's much more ethical, you just have to accept the price that comes with it.

[–] railsdev@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago (43 children)

You can just stop eating meat though. Like what’s the point of continuing?

[–] Petri3136@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Meat eating is tightly connected to manliness. Also ideas of freedom. People think doing away with meat would mean more austerity and an attack on their individuality. You could sit someone down, join the dots for them linking meat to environmental catastrophe that affects them and they will still laugh it off with a vapid joke like in the meme.

[–] railsdev@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

I don’t even know what to say. I’m a man and never did I link eating a steak to my masculinity. I know it’s a thing but it just seems so primitive/basic.

[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

*in your culture

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Man, my girlfriend wants to eat meat more often than I do, what does that mean? 🤔

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Meat eating is tightly connected to manliness.

That's an interesting proposition. You have a source for that, or a theory of your own? Please share.

[–] Petri3136@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/14/3/1290

The idea isn't new or obscure but there is an academic source. Have you never heard of alt-right idiots complaining about soy boys? You know they are referring to men who have been emasculated because of aversion to meat and consumption of estrogen-like soy products?

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I've heard about that, but I feel a majority of meat eaters are quite tolerant with veganism and don't see it a a threat to their masculinity. And I think I can say this threat isn't even relevant in the case of women meat eaters. About the study you linked: it doesn't really try to take an objective standpoint on the matter since its entire premise is the necessity to convince meat eaters to change their eating habits. Also is says itself (end of section 5) that the link between eating meat and masculinity wasn't specifically targeted by the study. The authors do mention though that the link between masculinity and meat eating can be attributed to perceptions created by industry marketing. But in this article (as well as in my own personal experience) this link seems at best anecdotal.

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