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[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Yeah I don't think pure communism is the answer, but neither is pure capitalism.

[–] vermingot@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 21 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Let's find a compromise between "equality" and "fuck you, all for me".

That's just a false compromise argument promoting a middle ground that doesn't exist

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean its impossible to tax people? Because it is. You just need better politicians. "There is no middle ground" is no argument, because there is. You just have your fingers in your ears shouting "LALALALALAA I CANNOT HEAR YOU".

Communism is a laughingly naive argument. There are no communist success stories. There are loads of torture horror porn stories though, if you're willing to read history. Maybe watch a good movie! Get "The chekist (1992)" somewhere. Then sit in a closet in fetal position for about a week or two (I never managed to finish it, its horrible, but a great movie nontheless) and when you come out maybe, just maybe you can understand a little bit about what communism really entails

We're a dying species on a planet that will heat up until we're all gone, do I really need another horror story ?

You mentioning the chekist is just the old and tired whataboutism where you point out horrors committed by the Soviets to justify your point of view. I could give you horrific stories where people were tortured and/or killed because of corporate greed and/or imperialism. What good will that accomplish?

Will hearing that people were locked inside a sweatshop while it caught on fire change anything about your view of capitalism ?

People falling in poverty because they can't pay medical bills, killing themselves because of their job, getting tortured for information they don't have, seeing their leaders get overthrown and living in a military state because of that.

Are you capable of seeing the horrors wrought by capitalism, not just those in the past but also those we see every day, and answer the question "Would that have happened if the redistribution of resources was fair ?"

If you want a movie recommendation "Sugarland" (2014), it's just a fun movie about sugar, showing how insidious and pervasive capitalists can be, don't worry no torture porn here but you'll still feel like shit at the end.

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