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How many of you are actually happy that people died? I think the memes are funny and I also agree with everything about the US and what it does to people around the world, but my outlook on the world isn't such that I'm glad when someone "evens the score".
If we were happy or not, why does that even matter? It doesn't change anything, we didn't contribute to it and America caused it through their foreign policy choices. Seems like kind of a pointless line of inquiry.
Only around 2-3k people died there, compared to millions from covid or millions we killed in Iraq and Syria, or tens of thousands dead annually in the US from lack of healthcare. Nobody freaks the fuck out and demands memorials for those deaths, so why are they deemed so much less important? Because it's not actually about the deaths, that's a smokescreen. It's about the wound to America's collective national ego, its self conception as untouchable master of the universe. That is the actual casualty of 9/11 that people mourn and cry about. Oh, and as another user pointed out, many of those 2-3k dead were cops and finance ghouls so of course we have to worship their sacrifice or whatever because Americans are bootlickers
I don't believe or agree with a perspective that treats human death like a numbers competition to see what the "real" or "actual" tragedy pr casualty is.
What is the threshold of human casualties that warrants public mourning? Why do you have to seperate out the ones who 'deserved' it in some way from the other people in that 3000 who were just IT workers, janitors, receptionists, etc?
Why should the tragedies of COVID or the millions of deaths in the war on terror cancel out the deaths of the people in the WTC?
Call me a simple person but I see or know about a traumatic experience being thrust upon bystanders and innocents, I am saddened. I don't start running some sort of mental calculus about how many people died vs other tragedies, or how the tragedy is being exploited in order to dismiss carnage.
In the real world, 9/11 lead to outpouring of sympathy in the short term. Iran and North Korea both condemned the attack. The US took that goodwill and spat in its face. If anything, that should be viewed as discrepctful to the citizens of several countries who died in the attack that their loss was used to justify the War on Terror.