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Just reposting this excellent point from lemmygrad

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[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (40 children)

Edit: A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another.

We now have literal “Soviets were godless barbarians” arguments. The revolution is never perfect enough, is it? Wish there was a time machine to send people back to moralize about doing what needs to be done and Christian moral goodness to the leaders of a nascent revolution being ruthlessly attacked on all sides. I’m going to reserve my tears for the thousands of dead Jews and millions of starving and dying peasants.

Maybe we can have a struggle session over dead teenage Nazis from WWII next time.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (32 children)

I don't like this. While it was probably necesarry to kill the royal family to avoid a counter-revolution or a government-in-exile, that does not mean we should make death, murder or the fear of those about to be murdered into something to laugh at.
Yes the Tzar was a murderous bastard encouraging pogroms and generally just a guy who got off easy, this photo doesn't really convey that to me. It seems like it's just laughing at something awful that happened to a family. Did the family deserve it? Yes. That doesn't mean we should make the act into something funny. Violence is necessary, but it shouldn't be glorified.
I don't think it's a black & white thing, but this image crosses my line anyway. Feels wrong.

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (20 children)

While it was probably necesarry to kill the royal family to avoid a counter-revolution

Gestures broadly at the Russian Civil War that happened anyway.

Here's a rule for those of you at home, don't machine gun kids.

[–] nicklewound@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at Mussolini's granddaughter now. They didn't finish the job. stalin-gun-1 stalin-gun-2

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

If she's presents anything more than an annoyance on Twitter I'm sure the Italians will flip her right-side up.

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