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[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

but the Ukrainians have developed the ability to do so on their own

no they haven't they're using artilery equipment we gave them.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

no they haven't they're using artilery equipment we gave them.

Don't blatantly lie.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-weapons-can-hit-russia-targets-430-miles-away-zelenskyy-2023-9 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-develops-weapon-zelenskyy-says-1.6953132

So, if you wanna say "oh secretly it was still the US that supplied the drones or whatever", extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought you were talking about artillery. Those drones are just repurposed consumer drones fitted with explosives they aren't on the scale needed to make a major difference

Nope. Just to be sure I went back and checked my initial wording, and I can see why you thought I meant artillery. I should have specified that they are using their own domestically developed military equipment to strike targets within Russia, which could theoretically allow them plausible deniability to then use a couple of Western-supplied artillery, assuming they could do it in such a way that Russia wouldn't be able to tell if it was a drone, IED, or proper artillery.

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