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[–] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 109 points 1 year ago (35 children)

Before everyone freaks out, this has zero impact on our communities. Chill.

They can already do this by bringing content from Mastodon to Meta platforms via links and screen grabs, this only speeds up the process.

Personally, I love that they're not federating day one. Because I don't want any instances I use to federate with them, I don't want to be connected to a Meta platform unless I deliberately go to a Meta platform to use it.

To expedite the process, Mastodon instances should just defederate from them entirely. Don't let them access that data through ActivityPub. They can build their own platform on the Fediverse and we can have our network of smaller connected instances.

Them doing this does not affect our communities unless we let it. Defederate from them and we can go on our merry way and they can have their own ad laden instance that's not connected.

Everyone, relax. Continue building your communities here and ignore Meta in their unconnected instances.

[–] anvit@mstdn.social 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

@Dee_Imaginarium @giallo I wish most Mastodon instances were planning to defederate from Meta by default but sadly that's not the case. Meta reached out to the admins of some of the big instances and a whole bunch of them don't plan to. One of the admins shared this — https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836

Some admins are going for a "trust but verify" approach. These are the only instances which have agreed to defederate from the start —https://fedipact.online/

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Ok I can get behind the "fedipact" as an idea but who the hell designed that website, nobody is gonna take it seriously if you're greeted with bright pink background and floating hearts. Who's leading the fedipact project anyway?

[–] fedi@masto.ai 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Kaldo it was put together by VantaBlack. I'm fairly sure most of the people who signed up to it do take it seriously.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It looks like a student/chatgpt created website. Not sortable in any way, no links to the source of the declaration, just a list of names and no proof anyone signed anything.

The extremely small "why" contains an explanation of what the pact is, but it's kinda cringe being written in lowercase and every second sentence having "lol" or "lmao" at the end of it. And then her personal donation links at the end? I thought this was supposed to be a community effort against meta, not a place for her to promote herself and herself only, at the very least put links to donation sites of the admins that sign the pact or the opencollective thing

Like the idea is fine but ugh, seeing this just made me extremely pessimistic about how is this gonna end.

[–] fedi@masto.ai 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Kaldo

'no proof anyone signed anything'
I don't know exactly what kind of proof you expect.

I agree that it could be more clearly explained. There was a fair bit of discussion on 'Mastodon' about it so some of that context might not be clear.

Re the donation links. It is quite common for people who show up on the fediverse and put in some work to ask for donations.

I mean it is a attempt to rally community to a cause but it was put together by one person off their own bat.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know exactly what kind of proof you expect.

How about a link to a public toot of the administrator where they actually agree to this?

It is quite common for people who show up on the fediverse and put in some work to ask for donations.

On their personal site of course, I am not arguing that, but if this is supposed to a community effort and an "official document/rallying point" then it has no place here, it comes off as desperate and unprofessional. You don't make an appeal to ethics and for everyone to come together and then use that space and community to ask for money just for yourself.

I mean I hate it that I'm being so negative, I know it doesn't matter in the large scale of things but I'm just shocked that this is how the fedipact is being organized. It comes off as extremely amateurish and unprofessional.

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