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Which instances have the most diverse points of view? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by 13esq@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Since Trump, I'm finding the Lemmy.world experience to be increasingly akin to an echo chamber and it's quite frankly starting to bore me. (Inb4, I'm a left winger and I don't like Trump, but I'm much more interested in a good spirited debate or novel points of view than I am in Orange man bad Nazi circle jerks)

If I wanted the same repetitive comments to be upvoted and any different opinion at all to be downvoted and even blocked/banned, I'd have just stayed on Reddit.

Are there any instances where different, opposing and novel points of view are celebrated and debated rather than simply derided and downvoted?

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I've seen many, and Anarchist theory is linked and discussed frequently. Sectarianism is banned, so you haven't likely seen Anarchists getting into fights with Marxists. As for the Ukranian war, Hexbear overall adopts the viewpoint of Lenin's analysis of Imperialism as a special stage in Capitalist development, including the Anarchists, so you likely disagreed on those grounds.

[–] OlgaAbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't disagree that the us is imperialist, I'm just saying that it's also imperialist to invade your neighbors to restore the russian empires western border and increase your sphere of influence

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You're describing different phenomena under the same title, which only adds confusion and not clarity. You should read Lenin, Imperialism isn't that long and it describes the modern form of Capitalism very accurately. Moreover, I don't really think that's an accurate outlook on the Russo-Ukranian war as a motive.

[–] OlgaAbi@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh, yes I belive it is, why else is russia invading ukraine?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I don't think it makes any real sense to say that it's about returning to restore a Russian Empire's borders. From what we know, there has long been an antagonistic relationship between NATO and Russia, and this continued even after Socialism fell, because Russia eventually kicked out the Western Capitalists that bought up and privatized the former state industry. This was accelerated when Ukraine suffered from the Euromaidan coup, and the Russian-speaking areas of Donetsk and Luhansk broke away.

You were almost correct when you said it was to increase their sphere of influence, the goal of Russia is to either assure Ukraine's neutrality or demilitarize it completely, as NATO has been intentionally encircling Russia and threatening them into opening up and letting the Western Capitalists back in.