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Summary:

The launch of Chinese AI application DeepSeek in the U.S. has raised national security concerns among officials, lawmakers, and cybersecurity experts. The app quickly became the most downloaded on Apple's store, disrupting Wall Street and causing a record 17% drop in Nvidia's stock. The White House announced an investigation into the potential risks, with some lawmakers calling for stricter export controls to prevent China from leveraging U.S. technology.

Beyond economic impact, experts warn DeepSeek may pose significant data security risks, as Chinese law allows government access to company-held data. Unlike TikTok, which stores U.S. data on Oracle servers, DeepSeek operates directly from China, collecting personal user information. The app also exhibits censorship, blocking content on politically sensitive topics like Tiananmen Square. Some analysts argue that, as an open-source model, DeepSeek may not be as concerning as TikTok, but critics worry its widespread adoption could advance China’s influence through curated information control.

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[–] credo@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (29 children)

The model isn’t afaik. I.e., if you download one of the models and run it locally. It’s the app with folks pasting proprietary, company secret, etc data into it.

Really, it’s the same problem as with ChatGPT, but now an organization in another country has your data. I guess we’ll see if our new techno bro overlords try to use this to their advantage across the board to limit competition, even from local processing.

Taking bets.

[–] 0liviuhhhhh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 day ago (26 children)

I just find it amusing how when proprietary data/company secrets/whatever are being sent to openAI it's a matter of "that was irresponsible don't let it happen again" but some guy in Kentucky isn't able to get a detailed description of Tiananmen Square from the US perspective without a little effort and it's the end of national security as we know it.

Same with the tiktok ban. How many classified military secrets do we think some regular dude in a trailer in Alabama really has on his phone?

"National Security" in the US is literally just code for rich people's bank accounts at this point.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Well yeah, it’s obviously more of a risk to send directly to your rival than internally. Both are risky but one is much, much worse.

[–] 0liviuhhhhh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And what exactly is the average person sending to China that's such a threat to US global Imperialism?

Sure, ban it on government devices or whatever you want to do, but why should civilians be punished because the government can't embezzle as efficiently?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of stuff. You analyze that data, you can refine your psyops.

[–] 0liviuhhhhh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And why should I be more worried about a hypothetical psyop that i might experience than the current psyops that I am experiencing?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

You are experiencing psyops from every direction. Some are just more obvious than others.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

And what exactly is the average person sending to China that's such a threat to US global Imperialism?

Am agreeink with these quesiton. Too many US politicians are not great leaders like Putin. And China.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stupid users send private keys and other secrets to their AIs all the time. This is a big fucking threat to US global imperialism.

The US trusts OpenAI (even if they shouldn’t) to not send hackers after US companies. They definitely don’t trust Chinese companies to have the same restraints.

Unfortunately that's just a danger on the internet. Stupid users are gonna get scammed whether it's a stock trading AI that empties your bank account when you link it or a Nigerian Prince who just needs $5000 so he can unlock his fortune and repay you $100,000.

Even then, what national security upending information does the average citizen have stored on their phone that they're just whimsically uploading anywhere that'll take a PDF? Like I said, I understand restrictions on devices used by government officials for official purposes, but to ban it unilaterally for civilian use as well seems excessive.

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