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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (12 children)

There are lots of them. And they were known before he ran. Not to the general public of course. But people that knew him knew he was an asshole. The problem being twofold. The public was never told who he really was. They were successfully sold a fabrication . And he was running against a bigger asshole.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (10 children)

This is what the left is spectacularly good and bad at.

They sell you an image of perfection because that’s what people want to see.

Except it isn’t real, it never is. They sell you everybody as if they’re all sanders.

And then the rug pull. Happens almost every fucking time.

They’re either beholden to billionaires interests, or worse.

You can tell the few that REALLY are good people. The whole party rallies together to stop them. AOC’s recent failed appointment, sanders and Hillary’s backhanded deal to keep him out.

There’s no winning here, the psychopaths have won.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I voted for Sanders twice. He lost the popular vote. There was no back handed backroom deal. As someone who is pragmatically anarchist I don't like the system and believe things should be more granular and local as a rule. Which would go a long way to solving this exact problem. You generally have a much better idea of people in your local community and who they are. Not always. But generally.

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Sanders supporters literally sued the DNC and the case was dismissed by DNC legal counsel arguing they were under no obligation to enact the will of the people and had every right to make backroom Deals in dark rooms filled with cigar smoke and rich old men. We are living in fascism right now. Both parties are owned by the same wall street military and prison industry profiteers who also control all the main stream legacy media outlets. The idea that our democratic system still functions is foolishly naive

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Donald Trump sues people all the time for things they never did. Bringing a suit doesn't necessarily mean something happened.

I believe the DNC did not violate their own rules during the primary. That is a low bar. I think there's plenty things we could do to make the primary more democratic. But the DNC didn't break their rules just to get Hillary elected. The rules were designed to get people like Hillary elected.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lawyers argue the easiest route they have. They're there to win a case, not have a debate and sway an audience to their righteousness. If the party is under no obligation to be fair, that's an easy solution and they don't need to make more difficult subjective arguments about fairness.

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