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[–] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)
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[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

Honestly, this suggests to me that the ability to defederate might be a bug rather than a feature.

If my instance doesn't talk to the instance at foobar.example, I might be unable to see (parts of) relevant discussions. This is worse for a microblog like Mastodon than it is in the threadiverse but it's still something to keep in mind even over here. And most non-enthusiasts don't want to have to do that.

Email is an example of a successful federated platform and it barely has defederation support. But in general all mail servers can talk to all other mail servers as long as they provide the right look-at-me-I'm-legitimate signaling. That makes email easy to use for regular people no matter if they use Gmail or their cousin's self-hosted mail server.

Perhaps that is how at least the non-threaded fediverse should work... However, that would also mean that some instance hosting heinous shit would keep being visible to everyone. It's a tricky problem.

[–] twen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

There is less of defederation in the email network, because mail has been build to reach its destination no matter the path or the time, message must arrives even partially. (this was a premise of the US military, at ARPAnet). Even if a mailadmin blocks one server, mail could go another route. This is also the base of the internet, path is not the most straight forward direct link between source and destination (companies are usually against this structure)

AT or Mastodon don't have this freedom or constraint (depend of one point of view).

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