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[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago (10 children)

... bunch of douchebag techbros thinking it's going to solve all the world's problems with no side effects...

one doesn't imagine any of them even remotely thinks a technological panacaea is feasible.

... while they get super rich off it.

because they're only focusing on this.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Oh they definitely exist. At a high level the bullshit is driven by malicious greed, but there are also people who are naive and ignorant and hopeful enough to hear that drivel and truly believe in it.

Like when Microsoft shoves GPT4 into notepad.exe. Obviously a terrible terrible product from a UX/CX perspective. But also, extremely expensive for Microsoft right? They don't gain anything by stuffing their products with useless annoying features that eat expensive cloud compute like a kid eats candy. That only happens because their management people truly believe, honest to god, that this is a sound business strategy, which would only be the case if they are completely misunderstanding what GPT4 is and could be and actually think that future improvements would be so great that there is a path to mass monetization somehow.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah my management was all gungho about exploiting AI to do all sorts of stuff.

Like read. Not generative AI crap, but read. They came to us and said quite literally: "how can we use something like ChatGPT and make it read."

I don't know who or how they convinced them to use something that wasn't generative AI, but it did convince me that managers think someone being convincing and confident is correct all the time.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Being convincing and confident without actually knowing is how 9/10s of them make it to the C suite.

That’s probably why they don’t worry about confidently incorrect AI.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Salesmanship is the essence of management at those levels.

Which brings us back around to the original subject of this thread - tech bros - in my own experienced in Tech recently and back in the 90s boom, this generation of founders and "influencers" aren't techies, they're people from areas heavy on salesmanship, not actually on creating complex things that objectivelly work.

The complete total dominance of sales types in both domains id why LLMs are being pushed the way they are as if they're some kind of emerging-AGI and lots of corporates believe it and are trying to hammer those square pegs into round holes even though the most basic of technical analises would tell them that it doesn't work like that.

Ultimately since the current societal structures we have massively benefit that kind or personality, we're going to keep on having these kinds of barely-useful-stuff-insanely-hyped-up cycles wasting tons of resources because salesmanship is hardly a synonym for efficiency or wisdom.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah yours is a more thorough and less flippant description of what I meant.

We used to make fun of all the corporate word salad that the Managment would use at my last “real” job. But it really was weird salad all the way down [up].

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