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[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -1 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

clearly started it by settling the other one's territory

That's a very simplistic take on the history

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

It's not simplistic, it's factual. It's more complicated than some people think, but way more simple than Zionists make it look, who try to I jegt artificial nuance to make people look away. And it's worked up until the internet has made it easier to see the genocide than ever before. I'd recommend looking into the British Mandate of Palestine, how a state was promised to Palestinians than reneged by the West to keep the Middle East in chaos, Herzl and the history of Jewish immigration to Israel (and alternative places they were considering like Africa), and the Nakba. Someone around here has a lot of good links, too. I'd also recommend looking into the US, Canadian, and Australian history to find out what settler colonialism is and see how it applies to Palestine.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -2 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

What would you say to the zionist jews that were already living in Palestine? Or to those in neighbouring states of the Ottoman empire that moved within those borders to find a place with less oppression? Did they 'colonize' their own country?

What would you say to someone that survived a pogrom in Russia and migrated the remains of their family to a collectivist farm in an empty piece of desert, merely as survival because they had nowhere else to go?

There's a lot of nuance to be found if you are willing to look a little deeper into it

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