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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 31 points 1 month ago (10 children)

STAR vote to make parties irrelevant except at the coalition building level!

[–] aliceblossom@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Finally, yes! Anyone who wants to vote for a third party should instead spend their time and effort fighting for a different voting system (ranked choice, star, etc) that could mathematically allow a third party to actually succeed.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A group here in the Midwest tried. The duopoly collaborated to squash the effort. We need a third party to make it happen.

[–] aliceblossom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is that there simply can't be a third party. In our current system a third party is mathematically impossible. I would love for a majority of citizens to suddenly throw caution to the wind magically surge a third party into power. But it's just not realistic. Again, the most a third party can do is cause a scare, but it'll never come into power.

Also for what it's worth there is an RCV bill for federal congressional elections in the House, which I think has a much better chance of passing than a similar bill in a deeply rural state like Missouri. Once established at a federal level I think it would simply be a matter of time until it made it's way to even resistant states.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago

Right, both of these things can be true: Third parties are impossible in our system. Third parties are vital to save our system.

There's no law of nature that says that our system must or will endure. We could just be fucked. No, wait, look at the polls for the current presidential election cycle; we're definitely fucked.

Doesn't mean we can't make a doomed effort to save it, though.

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