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This is mostly a serious question. Also, not for the tankies/MLs. I already know what your answer to that question is. I may not always agree with you on everything, but you do have an answer that if the conditions became right, could actually work.

No, this is for the type of anarchist completely against the wall, gulags, seemingly any amount of getting hands dirty. What is the solution to those types of people? There are so many of them in the US, a lot of which are heavily armed, that they could easily topple a socialist system, and even if they didn't do that, their existence would be incompatible with any marginalized group living their lives, since they love to harass them at best, outright murder them at worse. So what's the solution? Anarchists often seem to avoid this, seemingly believing that if there was a socialist or communist society, they would just say "aw shucks, guess I was wrong about that. Guess I'll no longer be racist or xenophobic!"

So am I missing something, what's the answer?

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[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago (13 children)

I’m not an an anarchist but I challenge the premise of the question, I think it’s pretty clear there have been plenty of anarchist groups throughout history “willing to get their hands dirty”. Anarchists aren’t hippies lol.

[–] weshallovercum@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago (11 children)

So now the question becomes, why is it OK for anarchists to use authoritarian methods to deal with reactionaries? Why was it OK for the Catalonian anarchists to execute priests, implement discipline in the factories etc? I don't disagree with what the Catalonian anarchists did, but it strikes strange that no one sees it as example of authoritarianism. Whenever anarchists were in messy situations, they used violence and subjugation as much as MLs do.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago (4 children)

look, clearly what needs to happen is we just all use black flags and everything is good and ok

[–] KamalaHarrisPOTUS@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)
[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Ehh, I’m kinda partial to the “our flag is red for the blood of our martyred comrades” thing

[–] KamalaHarrisPOTUS@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)
[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago

Thesis: black flag

Antithesis: red flag

Synthesis: :af-heart:

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