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does anyone else feel enslaved? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by Foresight@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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When I was growing up the internet was a place to be liberated from the world say what you want to say, be whoever you want and form genuine communities with shared interests. Now the internet feels like a tool to enslave the mind with identity echo chambers and any deviation leads you to being banned and blocked shunned and silenced within a void that is inescapable. Novel unique websites coded manually by hobbyists running servers for free in the commons allowing people access to the free flow of information under the banner of "information should be free" has largely gone away with corpratisation. I miss the days when the internet was populated largely by nerds aiming to make a better world not this controlled censored hell hole of profiteering.

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[–] Neato@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (35 children)

I agree with your premise, but no, I don't feel like the internet is just " echo chambers and any deviation leads you to being banned and blocked shunned and silenced". And anytime I see someone complain about being systematically censored or banned, you've gotta look at what they're posting.

https://lemmy.ml/comment/1697612

Banned because I made a meme that reddit was once a platform for free speech now a social engineering tool, found any excuse on my profile to give me a label of hate speech, and also because I disagreed with abortion.

https://lemmy.ml/comment/1692669

What is it with you lot with your obsession and fixation on rights? Why do you want the government to dictate your thoughts and actions so much?

https://lemmy.ml/comment/1693235

Enforcing policy is dictating lives though, how about just use a different name for marriage and do a different ritual? Unless that’s only if you actually only care for inheritance laws.

https://lemmy.ml/comment/1696649

How about people just treat each better than forcing it on people by the state.

https://lemmy.ml/comment/1693539

Marxism-leninism isn’t fascist though

https://lemmy.ml/comment/1677203

Like when your get older you appreciate the professionalism and authoritarian rules. No being more conservative doesn’t mean you hate gays and want death upon them, you libs sure do like to assume and generalise.

https://lemmy.ml/comment/1676143

Well the western left does have issues like being sex obsessed.

https://lemmy.ml/comment/1696276

So bad because he wrong thinked? Tate bad because he said a word? Please if he helps young men go to the gym and improve mental health then what’s the problem but it also highlights a gaping hole in society that hasn’t been addressed and neglected by this Western woke ideology, largely the needs of males have been neglected, shunned and ignored.

Just a quick 5 minutes of scrolling. So maybe people dislike what you're saying because what you're saying is anti-LGBT, anti-rights, pro-forced birth, conservative, tankie apologia? Also a fan of Andrew Tate so pro-rape, pro-human trafficking. I mean your record is speaking for itself.

[+] Foresight@lemmy.ml -14 points 1 year ago (28 children)

No it's not, why should positions be bannable? What if you got banned for simply having an opinion?

[–] Sterile_Technique@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What opinion?

[–] Foresight@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See the reply below, not explaining again

[–] Sterile_Technique@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, bigoted opinions? Yeah those should be banned.

If we're talking about whether or not you like pineapples on pizza, no one gives a damn which way you lean.

If we're talking about human rights, there's a very clear wrong answer. If your 'opinion' falls on the Nazi side of that aisle, this might be your cue to ask yourself "are we the baddies?"

[–] Foresight@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago

Instead of playing whack-a-mole how about seeing what inflames that ideology in their environment and fix that, at least if they're vocal you can identify them and see where it comes from and fix that instead of forcing them underground and hiding it. No, no opinion should be banned, at least with bigoted opinions there an identifier that there is something wrong in the urban planning in which they live that needs to be fix, your solution is to ban and ignore the problems.

[+] Foresight@lemmy.ml -6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The larger point with pineapple was that where do you draw the line, in the future pineapple might be considered bigoted, just like the saying "stick a n##### on a rape charge" in considered bigoted despite it being normal before my time. In my day disagreeing with someone wasn't considered trolling or hate speech. What is considered hate speech etc is largely down to perspective, being a nerd was considered a bad thing until we appropriated it and turned it into a compliment, would it not be better to turn offense to a compliment and just stop being so damn butthurt?

[–] Sterile_Technique@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're conflating disagreeing with behaving like a Nazi. I don't give a fuck what was acceptable back in your day. Today we draw the line at human rights If you get butthurt at being ridiculed for lamenting at the opposition you face when you try to marginalize other groups, then keep that shit to yourself. Or better yet, make an effort to actually get to know some people from the groups you're directing hatred at - might find you actually start caring about them, and suddenly their rights will mean more to you than the pushback you get for posting slurs online

[–] Foresight@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

Typing removed should not be an offence, buying a bag of faggots from a van should not be a crime and smoking a removed should not be punishable by law. I would like the UK not to be an Orwellian woke hell hole.

[–] Foresight@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

All I'm saying is why can't you just be a better person and be respectful without being told to or by an authority or the big other, if you need to be told or ordered to be a better person, then your not really a good person are you?

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