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I don't know why people keep thinking that phones are listening in on every conversation just so they can advertise 'Volvo' at you.
they don't need to - we give them loads of data voluntarily based on location data, what we search for, things we buy, things we 'like' on social media..
they'd be stung for huge fines and reputational damage if caught doing it.
it'd take enormous storage and processing power to manage all that data.
Just think about how many things you talk about every day that you've never then seen an advert for (confirmation bias)
my Google Home can't understand me when I'm actually talking directly at it asking it a question, so the idea it can seripticiously pick out words while listening through my pocket is implausible.
Give me a way to physically shut off the microphone (like a camera shield on business laptops), then we will talk.
Strange topics had popped up in my Google feed after l spoke to someone about something I've never googled before
Right but if THEY Googled it, and Google knows that you share a connection (they do), they can recommend stuff to you based on that.
There’s no need for them to listen to your conversations to do this. As someone else said, think of how often you talk about something and DON’T get advertisements for it.
I mentioned elsewhere, but people also don't realize that this data is often collected in ways they don't expect. For example, if you have a club card at a retailer, your purchase data is likely being shared outside of just that retailer. So you go to the store and buy some kitty litter for the first time. Then all of a sudden one of your other services start showing you ads for cat toys. Location data is sold all of the time now, and that's often through carriers. Oh, you started going to the gym, best show some ads for workout gear...
You don’t even need a loyalty card at that retailer. Your payments get sold by the payment processing companies to data harvesters, including Google.
Same here. If I go to a house with a football game or tv show blasting, the next day I see news related to this. It is not something I have googled.
Did you have your location services turned on around other people who likely did google that kind of thing? Or connect to the wifi in that house that almost certainly put in a search or 2 for that game? Or people who were there that Google knows you interact with? Did they Google it? Or was it just a very popular thing that was huge in the zeitgeist that day for everyone? We are tracked in so many ways that don't require them having to store and analyze literally every conversation that everyone has (Both sides of the convo as well!)
The worst part is that you can get targeted by advertisements recorded by the other partys phone. Once upon a time, before I started blocking spotify ads, the ads I got were always very generic (fast food, spotify premium, espresso house etc.), but one time after visiting my cousin and mentioning that I had a headache, I was bombarded with only ads for pain killers for the full three hour drive home the day after.
Creepy AF.
It's happened to me as well... When I started talking more about Free Software and security, the advertisements on my phone all showed me cybersecurity software or services to "ensure my privacy". It freaks me out too when Discord randomly opens and I get invited to some AR headset Discord server called "Kokomo"
Aruba, Jamaica, oh I know where I never want to take her now 😵💫
If you disable the microphone, you would also need to disable the vibrator, speaker, and accelerometer, all of which can be used as makeshift microphones.