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[–] discusseded@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (17 children)

The Democrats need an effective communicator that really connects with people.

I'm excited for this ticket, not because I'm Minnesotan, but because the country desperately needs Waltz, on television, at least as much as MAGAs have been. His rational and relatable mind is a remedy to the years of maddening bullshit that have been blasting us lower and lower to the depths.

I was so jaded by the Democrats and their inability to escape their ivory tower of power and even attempt to relate to me, that I was firmly resolved to vote RFK this election.

Now they offer a glimmer of hope. Here's hoping the tides are changing and they actually have conviction behind their normally hollow words. Biden has achieved some progressive agendas, and thankfully he released his grip to let others continue his surprising work.

[–] NewWorldOverHere@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

RFK is terrible.

Last Week Tonight did a whole hour on him on Sunday. It’s on YouTube.

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It has video clips from interviews where he himself brings up that he was friends with Epstein, OJ, and Bill Cosby. When he himself was accused with rape, his response was “I’m not a church boy” and “more might come out.”

There are also video clips showing how on more liberal interviews he says with vaccines he’s open to changing his mind (and even apologizing) if he’s introduced to new facts showing they’re safe. But then he routinely goes on conservative shows and tells them that vaccines are not safe and that he goes up to random people in the park to tell them not to vaccinate their kids.

He also went to Samoa and influenced the death of over 80 people by inspiring a fear of vaccines. (Last Week Tonight shows photos of him there and the welcoming ceremony they put on for him.) But when asked about Samoa, he denies even going there.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I felt so bad for john oliver watching that episode, airing right after the news broke of RFK abandoning a dead bear cub in Central Park 10 years ago. The downside of pre-recording the day before I guess. Can't wait for the follow up next week.

Don't vote for RFK

[–] discusseded@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ok that just sounds whacky and made up. At best a mischaracterization of some obscure situation.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] discusseded@programming.dev -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So he and some friends found roadkill and thought it would be funny to put it in a park to give the appearance that a NY bicyclist ran it over and left it? That's supposed to make me not vote for the person?

To me that says he has a sense of humor, strange as it may be. But how is that supposed to turn me off compared to grabbing women by the pussy or approaching young women from behind and smelling their hair and pecking at them publicly? I'll take dark humor over fucked up shit any day.

Come back when you have a video of RFK doing anything as grizzly as the two formerly leading candidates. Brain worms are fairly common and only support his claim that he's an avid outdoorsman. Again, how is that something to disqualify a candidate, when the next two are both literally and publicly out of their minds?

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't care to debate about it. You said it sounded wacky, which it is, and made up, which it isn't.

[–] discusseded@programming.dev -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Cool, then I don't care either.

[–] discusseded@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago

I did end up watching that episode. The part where Jon called him a red-pilled Smokey the Bear was really funny.

The accusation wasn't of rape but sexual assault, which is quite different, though no less wrong.

The show makes the distinction of mainstream and not. Not sure the real difference is liberal versus conservative.

And the Samoa situation is really strange, but I don't think Robert went around and told locals to not vaccinate. I said in another comment that he has something to answer for here, but saying he is responsible seems like speculation, given the evidence as presented.

[–] discusseded@programming.dev -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's a Kennedy, I'm sure he's been around a great number of people. But of all the interviews I've seen, both before and after his intention to run for president, I never heard him refer to those people as his friends. He had rational reasons for his relationship as far as Epstein goes. I don't have any reason to believe he was a child rapist.

As far as the other two, all I can say is that famous people tend to talk to other famous people at parties. It doesn't mean RFK approves of their behavior or character. If you have evidence of the contrary I'm all ears. Cherry picked sounds bytes don't impress me so you don't have to bother with that.

Also I'm not saying he's the pinnacle of greatness. He only had to top Trump and Biden, and that's not hard to do this election. There were other Democrats I would have gladly voted for but the DNC and Biden didn't give me the chance.

[–] discusseded@programming.dev -1 points 3 months ago

Don't care about down votes, but at least have the guts to support your decision. I'm putting my thoughts out there, you can refute them just the same.

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