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I've gone and made accounts of a handful of Lemmy instances, all of them larger, more popular ones.

... and I can't access any of them directly today, likely due to the influx of users from Reddit.

Programming.dev is alive and well though.

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[-] catch22@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

I'm a software engineer by trade but I figured the instance call programming.dev would most likely be run by someone who knew what they were doing when it came to running a lemmy instance and would most likely be the most stable. :P

[-] syl@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.world is ran by a pro. Dude runs one of the most used mastodon instances. The fact that Programming.dev is stable while .world is not quite so, is purely due to the amount of users. Get 80k on this instance and you will see what happens..

[-] philm@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I mean it's happening already right now. I think, especially right now (reddit migration etc.), it would be better to get a really beefy server until the dust settles, and then adjust the hardware accordingly with a little bit of room for more load in the future.

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[-] piccolod@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Same reason why I joined.

[-] CodeBlooded@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

This is 4D chess right here. I didn’t consider this when signing up.

[-] Sl00k@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Same exact boat, and also assumed if there were going to be any difficulties scaling this would probably be the best community able to tackle it lol

[-] attn_dfct_dev@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Programming.dev with local filter is a good replacement for /r/programming for me. I am loving it here.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

And it doesn't have all of the shitty low effort self promotion articles (yet)!

[-] doctorfail@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Hang on, I need to plagiarize a guide for setting up React and Redux and put it on my blog and pretend it’s mine for job hopping optimization and internet street cred…

Make sure said guide finds its way to LinkedIn and Medium.com please.

[-] nibblebit@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Man, this place definately has the vibe of an old timey BB forum. You recognise people in your replies like you used to. I find that I'm gawking at stats way less and I'm able to just talk to people. Engagement is way less, but maybe that's a good thing.

It's so refreshing. It feels like the old internet

[-] erlingur@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

It really does feel like the old web again to a certain extent. I hope this "age of enshittification" leads to a throwback to the old web but I'm not convinced it will happen. I feel like Lemmy (and other federation platforms) are definitely our best shot at it :)

Anyway, happy to be here :)

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[-] ruffsl@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

You recognise people in your replies like you used to.

This is pretty cool. I'm still active on some older traditional forums, but I love this style of threaded discussions in comment trees here. So much easier to reply to an individual in wall-of-text discussions. I think we'll also start recognizing each other by account birthdays, with a wave of folks all having similar ones in June and July. 📅

[-] XiELEd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah, I wish I didn't listen to those people saying that signing up to the fediverse was going to be complicated, then I would have synced my account creation date with my birthday.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

old timey BB forum

That's why I have the Netscape profile pic lol

Wait you can use gifs as the avatar? Oh yeah!

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago

I would love for someone to explain how the data itself works between instances because my mind was blown that I can view content from Lemmy.World while it is down if I simply log into another instance, like Yiffit. Is the content itself shared across instances?

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[-] snowe@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Glad you are enjoying it, though to be honest I do hope this grows to be a decently sized programming community. A lot of the threads are quite dead currently.

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[-] BravoVictor@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Ya know; perfect time to shout out the admins here. Thanks for this little terrific instance. I have an account on BeeHaw, I just never leave here.

No drama, just polls about icons. Easy.

[-] chaoticAnimals@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

This is my favorite place on the internet.

[-] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I am noticing a lot of comments from lemmy.world communities can't be seen from my other accounts like lemmy.ca or programming.dev.

Aside from that, I think it's nice to be on a smaller instance.

[-] JavaCodeWriter@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I can't even access the lemmy.world instance. It just always errors out for me.

But I like the idea of smaller servers that specialize in a specific hobby/interest/topic and then all the /c/ communities can be centred around that topic and moderated appropriately. I think it leads to better discussion between people looking for programming topics.

[-] kubijoe@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I read earlier that users and posts from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works are not being properly loaded and displayed due to the user’s client instance de-federating from instances with problematic users.

In other words, the behaviour of users in some instances has an effect on their reputation.

EDIT: (Maybe not. Not trying to kindle the fire of rivalry between Lemmy instances in here. Yet. * vsauce.wav here *)

[-] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I think the fediverse will function the best if everyone is split across many instances. As soon as one or several become dominant, the way they do things becomes the norm, for good or bad. That and the server load of course.

[-] Feyter@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I cannot explain the exact details but I remember during the first great Twitter exodus some people discovered a drawback in the ActivityPup protocol that seems to cause performance issues when very influencial users post on a small/under powered instance.

Because communicating all that stuff to many other instances is more costly than spreading it only to people on the same instance. So technically speaking large instances have a performance advantage and must just scale accordingly to the user number.

Everyone agreed that this need to change in oder to ensure a healthy federated ecosystem but I don't think it was be fixed by now.

[-] normalmighty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The problem is most people are confused and overwhelmed by all the instance business to begin with.

It's a UX thing. Users can't be expected to read up on all the technical details of instances and the pros and cons of different ones before signing up. I don't know how it'd work exactly, but they really need a nice and simple "sign up" page that they don't need to think about.

Maybe a list of all the decent instances to use - meaning pretty much all instances that are not catered to a specific niche, open to new users and don't have any defederation drama ongoing - and then a global lemmy signup page can just randomly assign new users to one of those instances.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, it definitely provides opportunity for bad actors to control Lemmy.

If reddit wanted to they could offer the admins of beehaw, sh.it.just.works, and lemmy.world money for control of the servers and then if accepted defederate the three largest instances from everywhere else, basically killing Lemmy or at least severely hindering it's growth.

[-] josejfernandez@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I never really understood what's appealing about participating in a community with gazillions of users where any attempt to have a conversation is buried under thousands of replies. Not even talking about the amount of trolling or aggressive commenters.

I think smaller places suit me better, and I am grateful that smaller instances like this one have emerged as a result of the latest happenings with Reddit.

[-] NoRamyunForYou@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

I find I like having both.

Smaller communities / more quiet threads where I really participate and get in a conversation with people. Other times I just like having a lot of different threads with a lot of different information etc.

[-] cliffhanger407@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Agreed! For me right now what reddit has but Lemmy hasn't replaced is the local/certain kinds of obscure that was on Reddit.

As a practical example, there isn't a great soccer forum, much less my hometown team. There's gaming but my nerdy deep lore destiny 2 sub hasn't made it over here yet.

So far I've been getting by on news feeds and mastodon repost bots but I'm definitely missing some of the content from the old site. A natural response is to stand up my own, but being realistic most people just don't have time to run a community, create content for it, and enjoy it. Reddit had a model that allowed occasional interaction with regular consumption due to its huge scale. So far that's still not here.

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[-] etler@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

There's an appeal to having limitless content, but it does become addictive. Having a slower pace is a good thing.

I left Reddit shortly after the spez's AMA before I found Lemmy and for a week I did feel a little out of touch since I didn't like the feeds on other social networks or sites. Lemmy gives me that feeling of being up to date with the internet without being endless which I think is much healthier.

[-] intelati@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There’s an appeal to having limitless content, but it does become addictive. Having a slower pace is a good thing.

You know that's a great point I hadn't considered..

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 1 year ago

Happy to be federated with you, good sir.

[-] cmeerw@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

When will the first Lemmy instances permanently shut down again because of high resource usage/costs?

[-] Saint_of_Illusion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was thinking if an instance owner cannot afford to keep upgrading servers, it could close its doors to new registrations. This will create a need for more instances and users will be more evenly distributed.

[-] cmeerw@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

But it's my understanding that resource usage will keep increasing even if you keep the number of users constant on a server (as more content is posted in the communities that users are subscribed to, and that content needs to be synced and stored).

[-] the_inebriati@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's adding storage, which is comparatively cheap.

For more simultaneous users, you need more CPU/RAM. That's where the monthly cost shoots up fast.

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[-] Dioxide@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’ve migrated from a tiny one to this one, I don’t know why, but I always gravitate towards the smaller communities.

Runs smooth here too :)

^Edit:^ ^typo^

[-] philm@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

This is the way (in the fediverse)

[-] jim@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, though federation syncing is really slowing down. This post from !technology@beehaw.org is at 44 comments from programming.dev but 112 comments on the beehaw instance.

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[-] muffin@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Reddthat here ~ we are alive and well too

[-] malloc@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

yea - same.

lemmy.world is not accessible for me

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm reading your comment from world. They were doing upgrades earlier which may be why you couldn't get in.

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