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Why say "the people of Gaza" when "Gazans" is right there? Is it Pentagon-speak?

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 52 points 4 months ago

So you're saying our staging point for the IDF was just a staging point for the IDF and not actually for humanitarian aid?

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

"Hey, does anybody else know what all these Merkavas are doing on the aid manifest?"

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

Why not? It was Bibi's plan.

[-] catonkatonk@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

I saw a lib just now say that Trump would be worse than Biden because at least Biden is getting aid into Gaza lmao

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago

I'm broken record but I can't help but think libs should not be allowed to use ๐š ๐š˜๐šž๐š•๐š + ๐šƒ๐š›๐šž๐š–๐š™ ~~until after the election~~ permanently. They should get an electric shock if they do. I too love counterfactuals but enough already for this thought-terminating clichรฉ for libs.

I used to not understand Adam Johnson's great dislike of counterfactuals. But I sure do now!

[-] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

At this point, the biggest difference between the Democrats and the Republicans are their ad campaigns. One says, "We melt the poor, but we feel really bad about having to melt them," while the other says, "We melt the poor, because the poor fucking deserve it."

[-] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

One says, "We melt the poor, but we feel really bad about having to melt them," while the other says, "We melt the poor, because the poor fucking deserve it."

One says, "We melt the poor, but the poor are too stupid to know why it's good for them" while the other says, "We melt the poor, because the poor fucking deserve it."

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 4 months ago

Good thing we did that to give them another way to reject aid.

If only we could do something

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago

If only we could do something.

Before I was worried that the invasion of Rafah will be a slaughter of historical proportions. It still might be. But now I wonder if the slaughter will be - in the POV of Biden, the dems, and the Israelis - a manageable slaughter that can be handled via propaganda.

It seems to me that Biden's biggest desire is how things look.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago

It seems to me that Biden's biggest desire is how things look.

That's why they executed all those journalists

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

Israel next "slava Ukraini" confirmed.

The u.s will start this in early-mid 2025

[-] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I did the fatal mistake of looking in a comments section from a news site about this situation.

Mfers really believe "hamas attacked the aid and withheld it for themselves"

debord-tired While it angers and depresses me that people think like this, I'm also not surprised? but also bewildered.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

sartre quote

[-] yuli@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

is โ€œthe people of gazaโ€ worse than โ€œgazansโ€? if it was โ€œthe people in gazaโ€ i could see how that could enable israeli propaganda on indigeneity, but โ€œofโ€ does suggest some link to their land

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The typical way to describe people from a place is to use the demonym. An example is Californian. "People of California" sounds like something a pol would say. Or a poet or something. I think it's very notable that - as far as I know - the West Bank has no demonym. Everybody - including reporters - is forced to use a clumsy mouthful of syllables like "Palestinians in the West Bank". I'm not a linguist but it seems really weird to me that a simple demonym (West Bankers?) isn't used.

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Edit

A comment to me at another site

A significant number of them are officially refugees and therefore not Gazan.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

amending 'people' to demonyms is meant to center the humanity of subjects in speech and engender thought and empathy in writing. the most widespread application is probably 'people of color'. i think the whole project was well intentioned and has some legit positives, it feels better to write 'imprisoned people' instead of criminals or prisoners

but it also rings nauseatingly hollow how corpos and politicals adopted it, they'll sign off on genocide but use the nice words as if that means anything.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

if they called them bankers somebody might bail them out

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

What are the logistical issues, reactionaries barricading the roads?

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

You'd be amazed how much momentum a truck can have. Just a stupendous amount. A truly jaw dropping volocity.

[-] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

I mean it could really knock you off your feet. Really make your head spin.

[-] tocopherol@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

I saw an article that had said several trucks were unloaded by Palestinians on the way from the pier, so I'm sure if it doesn't help get any aid in Hamas and Palestine will be blamed somehow

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

working as intended

[-] tocopherol@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

shocked-pikachu wow, you don't say!

[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

Why say "the people of Gaza" when "Gazans" is right there?

Because it's only for the settler-colonists who haven't evacuated or been killed by the IOF, yet, the only humans recognized as "people" in the entire territory.

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