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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ninja/post/22114

I get it. You hate “boomer shooter.” Why have people spent years using the term without checking with you, the consumer? Maybe you just hate the idea of remakes. Maybe you prefer to play the standards that boomer shooters are built on. Buying old hardware can get expensive so I offer a way to go retro without breaking the bank.

PCem, a vintage PC emulator, while no longer maintained by its original creator, remains highly usable. As the author is open to delegating maintenance to a new individual, it's possible that updates may occur in the future. For Windows users, backwards compatibility support is robust, suggesting that existing Windows versions of PCem should operate smoothly for the foreseeable future. Despite a lack of recent enhancements, PCem's existing binaries are reliable and accessible, offering an excellent option for those interested in PC emulation.

UniPCemu, another full PC emulator, originally developed for PSP but now available on multiple platforms including Windows, is also an active project. It provides near cycle-accurate emulation of 8086/8088 chips, with only a 4% discrepancy, according to the UniPCemu wiki. This makes it a promising choice for those seeking an accurate emulation experience.

DOSBox, another popular emulator focused on DOS-based games, is still actively maintained, with a significant number of changes accumulating in its development repository. However, new releases have been sparse, as the development team emphasizes ensuring minimal regressions before rolling out new versions. The existing releases, referred to as 0.74-x, are primarily focused on bug fixes and don't incorporate any new features from the development branch. Nonetheless, the developers have plans for a new release in the future.

Contrastingly, DOSBox-X has a distinct focus and is subject to frequent updates. Originally aimed at enhancing fidelity for running demoscene productions, DOSBox-X has now expanded its focus to improving fidelity in general. This active maintenance and the unique value proposition makes DOSBox-X a worthy emulator for those interested in high fidelity PC emulation.

Moreover, MAME is worth exploring for PC emulation. Its developers prioritize accuracy in their emulation, making it another strong choice for enthusiasts. Other options such as WeeCee, an actual miniature PC, could provide an authentic experience within a modern PC environment. Despite its size, WeeCee is capable of running a wide array of speed-sensitive games proficiently, making it another viable option for those interested in vintage PC gaming.

#hardware #emulation #retrofps #boomer_shooter

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[–] smart_boy@beehaw.org 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
  • Rookie Level 1 Gamer: "They're called boomer shooters because they're old like baby boomers"
  • Veteran Level 20 Gamer: "Baby boomers thought Doom was satanic, that's a stupid term"
  • Enlightened Level 60 Gamer: "They're called boomer shooters because of the huge debt they owe to the original Doom modding scene and therefore "Boom", one of the first limit-removing source ports"
[–] Vordus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

Galaxy brain: "hehe boomstick go boom"

[–] JDPoZ@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

133+.pk3@geocities.ytmnd.com Level 80 gamer... :
"Who cares. My ego isn't so delicate as to have my sensibilities offended by whatever the fuck you want to call it. If you think something like 'MyHouse.wad' is something that is for "bOoMeRs" (a.k.a. anyone old enough to know that it's called a "VCR," not a "VHS player") then you're the one missing out... not me."

[–] MrEUser@lemmy.ninja 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m STEALING this and pretending I wrote it. You are a jeeneus and get all the interwebz points for the day!

[–] Nihilore@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 2 years ago

The guy he copied this other comment from

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[–] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (7 children)

IDK why the OG FPS are now a considered subgenre

Modern shooters should be called "dumber shooters" or something like that instead, I mean, you are constantly told where to go, and what to do, level desings are extremely linear so you don't get lost, puzzles are gone so you don't have to use your braincells, there are no traps nor secrets, the actions is incredibly "childlish" (when your screen is filled with ketchup it means is time to stop playing the FPS and start playing hide and seek until the ketchup is gone) everything screams "our playerbase is too dumb to play videogames, so we have to handhold them like babies" it's really hard to consider them even shooters

[–] MrEUser@lemmy.ninja 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“IDK why the OG FPS are now a considered subgenre”

I don’t know why people keep thinking, saying, and implying this. The OG shooters are not being called “boomer shooters.” Modern games based on them are. I don’t know why the confusion.

Doom (1993) NOT a boomer shooter. Quake (1996) NOT a boomer shooter. Boltgun (2023) IS a boomer shooter.

[–] psudo@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because that doesn't let them shake their fist and tell the youths to get off their lawn.

[–] Froyn@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate the "battle royale" shooters of today. My lawn is either always shrinking or moving. Terrible games.

[–] psudo@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Then don't play them and let the people that enjoy them enjoy them?

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

That was a "get off my lawn, kids!" joke, not serious.

[–] MrEUser@lemmy.ninja 5 points 2 years ago

You missed the obvious joke in what was said, didn’t you… Do peoples lawns REALLY shrink and move?

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

can you imagine kids today trying to play Myst or Riven?

[–] Toxic_Tiger@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember just being absolutely stumped by Riven when I was 13. It was pretty to look at, but I had no clue about how to solve the puzzles. When I did finally make progress, the sequence would start again.

I'd probably get bored and go play something different these days.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

every once in a while, i'll replay them, and I'm still amazed at what amazing games they are. Other games that still knock my socks off are Ultima Underworld I & II.

[–] MrEUser@lemmy.ninja 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My ONE claim to fame is beating Myst in 19 hours of straight game play the day after it came out without reference material…

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

wow. took me at least a week and a half to beat that game once I finally was determined to get through it!

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Uh... Just look at how wildly popular minecraft is, and all the mods they stack on top of it, and the ridiculous redstone contraptions they build. And they play the Portal games and so on. Somehow I think they'd be fine with Myst and Riven.

Kids don't get dumber over time. Adults just forget what it was like to be kids and having adults look down their noses at you for your age.

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[–] donio@beehaw.org 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What irks me is that it associates the genre with the wrong generation for the sake of being catchy. Should be "Gen-X shooter" if anything but I guess that doesn't roll off the tongue.

[–] Limeade@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

One of my earliest memories is spontaneously picking up the phone to call a friend, hearing a bunch of modem screeching, then hearing my boomer dad cursing up a storm in the other room because I had probably just killed his Doom session. Some of the boomers were Dooming just fine! The younger boomers were only in their early 30s when it came out, it's not like they were too old to adopt new tech at the time.

[–] MrEUser@lemmy.ninja 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • Rookie Level 1 Gamer: “They’re called boomer shooters because they’re old like baby boomers”
  • Veteran Level 20 Gamer: “Baby boomers thought Doom was satanic, that’s a stupid term”
  • Enlightened Level 60 Gamer: “They’re called boomer shooters because of the huge debt they owe to the original Doom modding scene and therefore “Boom”, one of the first limit-removing source ports” Credit to @smart_boy@beehaw.org
[–] sheepyowl@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You said you were going to steal it and claim credit you liar!

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[–] aebrer@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hmm, I guess I'm wrong but I always felt they were called boomer shooters because they're always full of over the top explosions and everything is always going "boom"

You boom and you shoot it's right in the name

[–] MrEUser@lemmy.ninja 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
  • Rookie Level 1 Gamer: “They’re called boomer shooters because they’re old like baby boomers”
  • Veteran Level 20 Gamer: “Baby boomers thought Doom was satanic, that’s a stupid term”
  • Enlightened Level 60 Gamer: “They’re called boomer shooters because of the huge debt they owe to the original Doom modding scene and therefore “Boom”, one of the first limit-removing source ports”
  • GigaChad Level 80 gamer: “Who cares. My ego isn’t so delicate as to have my sensibilities offended by whatever the fuck you want to call it. If you think something like ‘MyHouse.wad’ is something that is for “bOoMeRs” (a.k.a. anyone old enough to know that it’s called a “VCR,” not a “VHS player”) then you’re the one missing out… not me.” Credit to @smart_boy@beehaw.org and @133+.pk3@geocities.ytmnd.com
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[–] Ragnell@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I think maybe the irksome thing is this is a retroactive label for older games. It's not how we got to know those games, and it sounds pretty dismissive of something we enjoyed and loved. smart_boy below has the right idea, reclaim the term, realign the meaning.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why are they being called "boomer shooters"? My boomer parents didn't want anything to do with them. The older millenials were the ones playing them. Most boomers don't even like video games.

[–] MrEUser@lemmy.ninja 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is answered in the comments.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago
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[–] CIWS-30@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Aren't "Boomer Shooters" actually Millenial Shooters? That's who played them when they came out.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Gen X: forgotten by our parents and everyone else

whatever

[–] that_one_guy@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

Looks like boomer is experiencing some semantic drift to mean 'old.'

[–] st3ph3n@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Elder millenial here. Grew up on Doom and Quake.

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[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (7 children)

@MrEUser I just hate the term “boomer shooter.” Can we do away with that please?

[–] FnordX@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Back in the day we used to just call them "Doom Clones". If it wasn't for Doom (2016) we could have gone back to that.

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[–] Varyag@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly I never even knew people didn't like this term, wtf. It properly conveys the idea of an old-fashioned FPS game, with basic 3D graphics, many times based on 2D sprites. Me and all my friends play them, and we love them, and we all call it "Boomer Shooter".

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[–] Mikelius@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I won't lie, I had to look at the comments and do a real quick search engine check to find out that the kids these days call the old FPS games "boomer shooter". One hell of a way to remind me about my age by calling me a boomer for liking my childhood FPS games :(

[–] HER0@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I am 90% certain it was never meant to refer to the generation that played it, but to the over the top action.

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[–] Not_Leader@readit.buzz 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

wait what's stopping "arena shooter" from being used

[–] MrEUser@lemmy.ninja 8 points 2 years ago

The fact that we’re not talking about arena shooters would be a big reason.

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[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This was my childhood. Doom, so much Doom.

[–] Micromot@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't see why people really hate on Doom, for me (16) it's still a great game with tons of mods and also a great base game

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did I miss something? I thought Doom was the gold standard.

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[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Probably just because it’s held in such high regard by those old enough to have played the original when it came out.

[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is that your Packard Bell monitor? That’s literally the monitor I had on my first computer

[–] MrEUser@lemmy.ninja 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. I don’t own a CRT anymore.

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