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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One third of the real cowboys were Mexican, another third were Black. Cowboy was a terrible job, and they were mostly despised as "saddle tramps' until the sheep herder/cattle rancher wars. The ranchers, and later Wild West shows, played up the romance of the cowboy.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We literally got the entire western film genre as a result.

See the entire sub-plot of Oklahoma or McClintock for more details.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Not an expert, but I'd bet that there were absolutely no TV or movie Westerns about a brave sheepherder.

edit = Apparently, there was at least one, 'The Sheepman' with Glen Ford. Thanks to Capt. Wolf for the link.

For a movie from [a slightly] Indian perspective, check out 'Little Big Man.'

https://youtu.be/7K4l5ZZe4-k

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently not true! The Sheepman came out in '58 with a pretty insane cast no less!

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You got me, partner. There was one. And you're right, that's a great cast.

But do yourself a favor and see 'Little Big Man.'

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think I saw it quite a few years ago, but I'll have to refresh my memory.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The book it's based on is supposed to be very good too.

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[–] Monkeyhog@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ain't that pretty fucking obvious?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

TYL not everyone is well acquainted with Spanish.

[–] redbr64@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I am a fluent English speaker (in the US for a few decades) who knows Spanish (native speaker of Portuguese which also uses vamos), and thinks about etymology all the time - it never occurred to me lol. I just thought it was some weird old timey american thing lol

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I thought it funniest that "vamoose" is even considered a separate thing and not just Americans using a Spanish word

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

In retrospect, yes, very.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Come on, vamonos, everybody let's go!

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same with "mosey," I think.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

1829, "move off or away, get out," American English slang, of unknown origin, perhaps related to British dialectal mose about "go around in a dull, stupid way." Or perhaps from some abbreviation of Spanish vamos (see vamoose). Related: Moseyed; moseying.

Seems a little long reach to vamos.

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think varmints are necessarily li'l, not little.

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[–] Nyoka@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

No one tell them about "hoosegow".

[–] LongbottomLeaf@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 year ago