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[–] markvandijk@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago

What's the best alternative? This doesn't sound great.....

[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago

I’m switching to Librewolf. I don’t want ads in my browser.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 hours ago

anyone up to date on how servo has been doing?

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 43 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This seems like a great time to install LibreWolf.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)

[–] wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 hours ago

AFAIK the sync is end to end encrypted

[–] swab148@startrek.website 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I just switched to Bitwarden for passwords

[–] anon@lemmus.org 1 points 3 hours ago

That's the best free option, and possibly best option overall. I've been with them for about five years now and it's been great.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

i think you can have it sync to a self hosted server, also an option.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

You can, but the last time I did that the instructions were incomplete, and you still had to auth through Mozilla. That was a few years ago, so things might have changed since then.

[–] kobra@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Firefox sync is E2EE too (or at least can be, mine is)

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

They've released an update, and I'm just generally confused: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/

I fully believe that they didn't intend for it to sound so... all encompassing, but this update makes me even more confused. What data is "uploaded" to firefox? I just thought Firefox was the browser, not some website. Do they mean the services Mozilla offers?

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 28 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This doesn't make any sense to me either. Why do they need a license for what you type into Firefox if that data never gets shared with Mozilla?

I don't know a single application that you need to give a license to so they can handle your data locally.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 hours ago

Or why do they have a world wide right for anything entered into Firefox.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

We’ve seen a little confusion about the language

Tastes like "I'm sorry you feel that way"

The privacy notice document lists how each data type is used. It includes in-browser ads on the new tab page, AI chatbots, and "to market our services".

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'm glad I use a fork, even if it much more unstable. Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Igalia is currently working hard on making it easy to use Servo as an embeddable browser engine similar to how Chromium can be used.

The problems of doing that with Gecko, the browser engine that powers Firefox, is main reason why there are so few alternative browsers based on it.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Also because Blink is the best and most advanced engine. The problem of Chromium is only that it need to gut out the Google APIs before it is a valid base for an browser. Vivaldi does it, also degoogled Chromium and even EDGE (but in change filling it with a ton of M$ tracking APIs). The only alternative (Linux only) is the Konqueror Browser with the Grandfather of Blink, KHTML by KDE (German company).

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago

The problem of using blink is that then you give more power to google. They are the ones developing it, so they can decide what goes in it... cough jpegxl cough...

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.

Maybe that's why Mozilla quit contributing to it.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 56 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (4 children)

God dammit, and just as Google starts enforcing manifest 3. Maybe it's time to stop doing this internet thing altogether. It had a pretty nice run but right now it's just a propaganda and compliance tool...

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Bring back ham radios.

Ah shit I'm too introverted to use my voice...

Data packets through radio?

Btw: Rattlegram is a Android/iOS app that can convert text to audio, which you can then play over a ham radio. You can use encryption before you paste the ciphertext into Rattlegram. (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

(Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

Unless the police do it.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 4 points 5 hours ago

Data packets through radio?

Software Defined Radio?

[–] anon@lemmus.org 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I was on the verge of deleting everything online, including my email address, because I'm with you, but at what point does the privacy movement start intruding on enjoyment of daily activity. I've accepted that my information will be had in exchange for a good product.

It's not exactly how I want to operate, but also, life is too short. Ultimately, I'm on the verge of using Mullvad Browser, Mullvad VPN, and probably getting my email hosted out of some small shared hosting platform somewhere.

I think about this type of stuff daily and it's just exhausting. The Internet has transformed into what we'd hoped it wouldn't over the past five years.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

Check out the gemini protocol and the small web, lots of rabbit holes there.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

From my understanding, they're pushing this shit on March 14th.

π

Also our next lunar eclipse, at least in the USA.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And Firefox is no longer my browser. Tada.

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 hours ago

do you mean you use a more privacy oriented fork like Librewolf, or instead some chrome/chromium derivative or fork?

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 hours ago (3 children)
[–] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Capital is the problem, not nationality.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, but also non existent US privacy policy. There the users are simply raw material for the benefit of large corporations and user rights an incomprehensible communist phrase, to make America great again. The EU at least put limits to these abuses.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

because US capital decided so. notice that the limits the EU has are slowly being undermined.

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 21 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That website actually promotes Firefox, you know. Not sure it fits this thread.

[–] pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 15 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Also from the "European" recommendations, Vivaldi is Chromium, and Mullvad is Tor, which is Firefox.

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I’m really glad this exists! Thanks for sharing it!

[–] cheezoid2@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

So what’s the next best thing to use, preferably one that supports uBlock?

[–] dai@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

I'll be moving to https://github.com/schizofox/schizofox on my x86 machines.

Mobile will be a fork of Firefox.

https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird is a project I'm keeping an eye on, will be a while off being a daily driver.

[–] smpl@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 9 hours ago

Librewolf it comes with uBlock installed.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 5 points 9 hours ago

If you're sticking to Firefox-based browsers, Waterfox seems to be the fork closest to Firefox without being controlled by Mozilla.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 hours ago

There is only firefox, chrome, or safari to chose from. I just use a firefox fork.

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know, could you explain please

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

see this other post: https://lemmy.ml/post/26518180/16957376

Hint, look at the date this gets pushed, :)

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

No, we all got the pi = march 14 part, but WTF does that have to do with anything?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's not just March 14th, it's also our next lunar eclipse (here in the US at least), peak eclipse at about 1:59am...

3.14159

I set alarms in my watch months ago, before ever learning how that date is also going to affect technology and security certificates and shit.

I do hope the weather will be nice early that morning to be able to see the π lunar eclipse at least.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

It's a cosmic cabal! The aliens are coming!

[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago
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