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[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yes ofc.. Everything Trump has been saying and doing is insane.

But [ maybe] we should also be carefull about simply parroting US media. It seems the USA media en politicians want to escalate this. Actually, the US media while apperantly trashing Trump, may be playing exactly in his hands.

Or am I stretching it? I mean have you noticed how the (established) EU media and politicians have been more nuanced in their reports?

[–] superkret@feddit.org 51 points 7 hours ago (8 children)

We should stop calling it "the west" then.
It's always been a ridiculous name for a group that includes Australia, Europe, and USA.
We should think of a new name...

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago
[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

the Imperial Core is already a more descriptive name, methinks

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The "other side" is imperial too. That doesn't make sense.

The entire thing is just imperial powers battling and using everything in-between as pawns.

Do you think Russia, China and Saudi Arabia aren't doing the same thing to places?

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

they are imperialist too, but not nearly to the same degree

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 7 points 3 hours ago

sorry they absolutely are.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 3 hours ago

Just less successful

[–] aleq@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I guess "NATO and friends" might be a bit shortsighted?

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

NATO and Friends sounds like some Paw Patrol type cartoon.

[–] doortodeath@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

How do you explain this to the slaves in USA?

[–] Shtef@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Just kick out the "freest" country

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 4 hours ago

we know tbh

[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The Last States of Democracy

[–] 1984@lemmy.today -1 points 4 hours ago

Kingdom of the billionaires.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There's also Canada, NZ, South America, a lot of Africa and Asia

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No country in South America, Africa or Asia is part of "the west".
I admit I forgot Canada and New Zealand, as is tradition.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Japan and South Korea aren't in Asia? I'd certainly count them as "western", especially Japan. if I'm feeling especially generous I might provisionally include Brazil too.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network -2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldn't. You're mistaking countries under the thumb of the West as being the West

WWII and Korea are how those countries came about their position today. I don't think they're entirely against their position but they don't have a seat at the table like the others do

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

They have has as much of a seat as warrants their size and economic power, perhaps even more because of their location as a buffer against China. Most EU countries have pull only because they are part of the EU. Compare Spain and Japan on the world stage, for example.

[–] match@pawb.social 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Japan's the third largest economy in the world and they aligned themselves with the West in the Meiji restoration. they sought imperial conquest of their neighbors in the 1900s. what more do you want for them to be the West

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've been calling it piss-jizz

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

pee pee poo poo hehehe (don't tell my mom I said that)

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 37 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Regardless of β€œofficial policy”, I will always stand with Ukraine. In fact, now more than ever, it might be time I get a Ukraine flag to fly on my house.

[–] dejpivo@lemmings.world 13 points 7 hours ago

Better send that money towards their drone production.

[–] randomname@scribe.disroot.org 11 points 7 hours ago

European Reactions to the U.S. Retreat From Democracy

[...] Three levels of concern are emerging.

First, and of most immediate importance, is the issue of international democracy funding. With nearly all U.S. democracy aid dramatically frozen, European donors are already receiving hundreds of requests to provide emergency support to the affected civil society recipients. [...] European funding for democratic governance is around €4 billion ($4.2 billion) a year, compared with U.S. funding of around $3 billion, meaning European donors would need to increase funding levels by around 75 percent to cover the shortfall entirely [...]

A second concern is more self-protective [as] many in the EU and European governments fear they face a more crucial task of defending European democracy itself from brazen and truculent U.S. assaults. Far from filling the gap left by suspended U.S. funding, the EU seems to be on a trend toward diverting more resources internallyβ€”that is, into protecting European democracy from harmful U.S. interventions. The Trump administration has supported the far-right figures who are unsettling European democracy, while U.S. big tech is now seen as a major threat to political pluralism in Europe [...]

A third level of putative adjustment relates to the broader shape of global democratic alliances. Beyond the EU’s own funding choices, the question arises of how far international cooperation on democracy can now be built without the United States [...] Non-Western democracies have often complained about heavy-handed U.S. leadership of the democracy agenda [...] A key question is whether these democracies will want to invest large amounts of resources in a post-U.S. democracy agenda. They will now face a crucial test of whether they are willing to adopt such proactive agency [...]

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 7 points 7 hours ago

The eagle of liberty now has two heads