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show transcriptchirasul posted:
my only advice is to BE CAREFUL posting about holiday traditions around europeans. you'll post something casual like "anyone else watch the old Grinch movie every year? what a classic" and a european will appear as if summoned and say some shit like "funny how USAmericans always CONVENIENTLY forget that Not Everyone On Earth is from The USA…….. no of COURSE we dont watch 'the grunch' or whatever the fuck that is…. our tradition is to attend a community showing of Glummdorf the Racial Stereotype"

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riseupriseupandcomealong:
my mom’s (american) class tried doing a language exchange thing w a sister school in spain and they decided to send each other boxes of gifts for christmas. the spanish class made remarks about oh christmas in the usa is so commercialized we have ~real traditions~ here and then my mom opened a box full of blackface dolls and blackface doll ornaments and blackface clothespins in front of her students

raygender:
Did once have a Dutch woman vehemently defend the Festive Christmas Blackface by repeating "it's different in Europe” with increasing desperation until she was crying. Literally all anybody else present did was just like, calmly say they were uncomfortable with the practice and not change her mind when she wailed about it.

monkey-mulch:
you bring up rudolph the red nosed reindeer and they bring out Skimbo the filthy redskin and im barely even joking about that they actually had this thing called indian plays in both soviet countries and germany

themainspoon:
European children waiting patiently on Hatemas Eve for Racism Claus to slur down the chimney and segregate all of their presents by colour.

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[–] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I remember the Atlanta "Sinterklaas is coming to town" episode, hilarious 😂

But I didn't know about this supposed "tradition beforehand, despite living pretty close to the border and went down the Zwarte Piet rabbithole. There was a huge fight nationwide about if it should be banned or replaced (aka ash on fave instead of blackface) and there were a lot of " traditionalists", let's call them racists wanting to preserve their beloved racism custom. There are grown ass people painting their fave pitch balck, lips red, afro wig and gold hoop earrings. Yeah, definitely normal tradition.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Since Americans basically stole every tradition they have from someone else, I’m not gonna worry about their opinion on them :D

The US is a toddler when it comes to history and traditions. I drive by a church that was built in the year 900. That one’s actually called the ‘new church’ since it replaced one from the year 400. That’s history. And we’ve got traditions that go back centuries further.

Just because Americans prefer watered down, tame versions of our European traditions, doesn’t mean the rest of us are going to follow. Krampus, Sunneklaas, Sinterklaas and other traditions are here to stay.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile, Brazil just embraced the capitalism hell-mas. We do like making nativity scenes (presépio)

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

The Jim Jefferies Show had a good bit on this: https://youtu.be/piGzE2cMVqA

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I hate christmas and I can't wait for it to be over. I actually quite like winter, but christmas always comes to ruin it. The whole thing is a sham, no matter what country does it. Stupid half made up traditions aside, I hate people feeling obligated to get me shit and cutting deeper into our already suffering wallets just to keep our fragile system from immediately imploding.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we found the one guy who's actually part of the war on christmas

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Ya sure did, and back into my hole I go! You'll never get me alive!

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This was apparently my reminder that the nordic christmas is not european ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

never seen a blackface, is pretty commercialized and all - but not seen any hateful stuff that I recognize.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

it's commercialized but like, softly so, like the nordics in general.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

My Christmas tradition is some fat drunk Sheppard that comes down the mountain with presents and coal to announce that Christ has been born.

Y'all are weird.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Happy Halcyon Days, everyone!

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