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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is always someone retired

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

You misspelled the last word.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does it really matter if anyone has the ‘right’ to do anything? What is this Crusader Kings?

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

In practice, no. Countries and militaries and other such groups of psychos will always push every boundary they can unless they think the cost is too high.

In theory? Yes. If the rules as written actually mattered, countries would only respond to those that broke rules. In this case Russia would be responding to NATO breaking international law multiple times.

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So, Russia will stop attacking Ukraine since it has "no right".

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's more that we won't be reading about full scale unprovoked attack on the US soil going forward.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We should really include "full scale colonial invasion" before every mention about USA getting their current territory.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago
[–] futatorius@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

Sure, because something that happened centuries ago is as urgent as something that's happening now.

And if the US was wrong, how is Russia right in doing the same thing?

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Do I have a surprise for you

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

lol yeah what am I saying here, of course we will

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

If we are talking about "the rules" then UA, and as a proxy for the West, failing to implement Minsk II is the primary precursor to Russia invading.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"The DoD has no comment on remarks supposedly made by a private citizen to a Russian news outlet."

A retired colonel? Who gives a shit what a has-been nobody from a 20 year old administration has to say? What, are they going to do, interview me next for expert testimony on Canada because I carry a hockey stick?

It's not like Russia needs permission to attack NATO anyway, Putin just needs to decide if he wants it or not and can figure out whatever justification he desires.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lamed duck president taking the US into a war against the biggest nuclear superpower in the last weeks of his admin without congressional approval is pretty noteworthy.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the biggest nuclear superpower in the last weeks of his admin without congressional approval is pretty noteworthy.

If that had happened, it would indeed be noteworthy.

[–] erin@social.sidh.bzh 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so if India use their bought Rafale to attack Pakistan or China that bring France at war with those countries? Of course not... And for Ukraine it's the same...

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These weapons are being operated directly by NATO from the territory of Ukraine to attack Russia. Nobody is denying this, and the fact that you can't understand it is frankly wild.

[–] erin@social.sidh.bzh 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

oh sorry, I commented on a lemmy.ml post that drink russian propaganda... Sorry to bother... But I have one question. If NATO was really on the frontline, why NATO leader are so eager to not openly enter war with Russia to the point where it took 3 years for them to greenlight the target of Russian territory? That like fighting with an hand in the back, that would be bad strategic decision... If really NATO is in the frontline why no Rafale or F-22 in the sky? If NATO is at war with Russia, why not attacking from Finland or Baltic states to flank the army? If NATO is at war with Russia, why after 3 years there are no Nuke in the sky from both side?

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

The most heavily propagandized victims always assume they are immune to propaganda.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's quite the tantrum. Are you ever going to acknowledge how ATACMs works?

[–] erin@social.sidh.bzh -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

not what I say, what I say is NATO soldiers are not on the frontline fighting Russia and unlike what Putin says, he really not want to start that war with NATO...

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

So that's a no lol

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fact that you felt the need to write an essay about how offended you are to step out of your bubble is hilarious.

[–] erin@social.sidh.bzh -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As a c/NonCredibleDefense member I'm not offended by your message, I laughed a lot while writing that "essay"... but the fact that you are diverting from the question on why NATO country lives in peace without consequence while Russia spend 3 years saying they are at war with NATO and threatening of nuclear retaliation while doing nothing (not even a non nuclear missile or a bomb on NATO territory) tells a lot about the fact that you can't answer...

The mismatch between what Putin says and what Putin does is so big that instead of using his IRBM on NATO soil to proof that he has to be taken seriously, Putin used it on non NATO soil which lead to more NATO help to Ukraine next Tuesday... And Putin will continue to threaten but will do nothing against NATO countries... I can bet a lot on that... So much for the not so strong leader that is Putin... XD

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago
[–] futatorius@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But Russia bringing in 12,000 North Koreans doesn't give Ukraine the right to defend itself? What about the war crime of deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure? What about the war crime of invading a country that hadn't attacked you?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Do feel free to provide actual evidence of these DPRK soldiers fighting in Ukraine.