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[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago

First we have to figure out how that"online gaming" thing works, because we're busy suing people.

[-] f1error@thelemmy.club 19 points 11 hours ago

Shit on Nintendo being "behind the times" and patent litigation, but they are the console I always have the most fun with. I pick up my Switch everyday, the Xbox and PS grow dust. That's just me, maybe I'm just too simple...

[-] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 hours ago

I have no problem with them being behind the times, if they even are. What's really annoying is suing people for downloading games that they don't even sell anymore.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Or suing people because they advertised their product for them. That one has never made sense.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Unfortunately the one behavior negates the other. How can I have fun with their products knowing that I could face legal action simply because I share my love of their games?

No sod that, I guess their games don't get streamed then. There are plenty of companies that are happy about the free advertising, or at least don't care either way.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Tbf the fact that it's a portable probably helps, if only the competitors would release a proper portable instead of a streaming tablet...

[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago

That direction is litigation via patent trolling

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

They wouldn't, you can't claim ownership of AI generated material in many places. So for such a litigant company AI is a no go.

[-] mhague@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

They're still figuring out the internet

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 73 points 21 hours ago

That direction is straight toward the courthouse.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 19 points 20 hours ago

Well you did think about Mario that one time so surely they have a case.

Nintendo probably think breathing within 500 km of one of their products constitutes copyright violation.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

You typed his name. We’ll see you in court, asshole

- Nintendo

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

I mean the way some companies have been using AI they'll be headed that way anyway.

[-] jmankman@lemmy.myserv.one 42 points 19 hours ago

"We can already stifle creativity through the courts though?"

[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 hours ago

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[-] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

More like if someone else does a better job, sue the living shit out of them.

[-] TK420@lemmy.world 35 points 21 hours ago

Refreshing a company is not jumping on the hype train

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 20 hours ago

Realistically they weren't going to, were they?

They're not a big tech company, not really, there's no reason they would have the necessary compute to develop an AI in the first place so what they're really announcing is that something that no one expected them to do is not going to happen.

In similarly news, Crayola are not going to develop an AI.

[-] Grangle1@lemm.ee 12 points 20 hours ago

That said, they're not likely to license an already made AI for their projects either, which is also nice.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I didn't really expect them to do that either, because what would it do?

The reason companies like Google are developing an AI is because they have a lot of processor capacity anyway, so they can make use of it and they have a broad enough product catalog that it fits with their current offerings.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 15 points 21 hours ago

Note that he didn't say that Nintendo is going in a different direction.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

He can't decide that and is purely speaking from a perspective of a (legendary) game dev with more experience than some studios have as a whole. He's been longer in the game than almost anyone else for better or worse.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 19 hours ago

Its Nintendo. They are always a decade behind on new technology.

Come 2032 or so they are going to be all about how great this technology that lets them create custom VAs for all their characters (so they never have another Marinet situation) is amazing.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

They are not behind. Since they are not trying to catch up with Sony or MS. They purposely choose to use cheaper hardware and go a different direction. That’s not the same as being behind.

It’s their Blue Ocean strategy. They don’t want to compete directly against Sony and a trillion dollar company called Microsoft. Since the last time they did that it almost took the company under. They make a profit on each Switch sale since the first one was sold and they offer an entirely different gaming catalog that targets a different audience.

[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Nintendo used to be ahead of the curve with the N64, but you're right that they've been trailing behind for a while now. The Switch still uses the Nvidia Tegra X1 CPU/GPU, which was released in 2015.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 minutes ago

I would actually very much argue that the N64 is when they "stopped trying" as it were.

Sony (which is a can of worms on its own), Sega, and even frigging Atari realized that CD-ROM was "the future". Nintendo... let's skip the Sony aspect and just say they chose not to.

The end result is that everyone else had 700 MB-ish to use for resources and were working on finding ways to hide the load times (RIP Shang Tsung). Nintendo continued to use a cartridge that could hold 4-12 and later 32 and 64 MB. This meant dialogue and cutscenes remained almost non-existent and texture work was similarly VERY limited in favor of solid colors.

Its Nintendo and most of The Internet are still the kids on the playground looking to beat up the Sega kids so we mostly talk about the good parts of those consoles going forward. But it is always fun to watch one of the Influencers have that "So... outside of like four games the N64 REALLY sucked, huh? BUT THOSE FOUR GAMES ARE THE GREATEST GAMES TO EVER EXIST AND I STILL LOVE YOU MIYAMOTO SAN!!!!". Whereas we all almost universally agree "The Playstation had an amazing library... and most of them look like someone sharted on the screen" because... 700 MB is still not a lot for texture and audio work. And "Oh yeah. The Sega Saturn existed... That was the tower of power, right?"

Do you mean the voice of Mario..?

I do not want an AI voice to puppet his corpse for the next 150 years.

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