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[-] SouravSatvaya@lemmy.world 46 points 18 hours ago

Doesn't matter if the game is on Steam or on Epic if it's a shit game.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Well, I bought FC5 for 10. It was still a rip off, but put that shit on sale and make something back.

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 1 points 13 hours ago

Ubi actually makes some great games. Give Anno 1800 a shot.

[-] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 128 points 22 hours ago

Until I hear that they have dumped the requirement to log into Ubisoft Connect or Uplay or whatever they are calling it noe, then Ubisoft will remain dead to me.

Makes me sad. I really enjoyed the Assassin's Creed series and have waited for Shadows for what feels like a decade now.

[-] AngryPancake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Especially painful on steam deck. If you get it working, it adds a good minute to the launch time

[-] cmrn@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

Every time I go to play an old Ubisoft game I get to some stage in launching where I remember “oh right this is why I stopped bothering to play”

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That plus resigning the same game every few months

Fucking auto correct

Resigning should be releasing.

Apologies alll

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world -5 points 15 hours ago
[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I was really confused by your responce thinking it was meant for someone else toll I reread my comment. I'm referring to the "ubisoft game" that we all know and are bored of

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

I think they meant to say reselling?

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[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 81 points 22 hours ago

Despite the best efforts of major publishers including Activision, Electronic Arts, Rockstar, Bethesda, and others, not to mention the far better deal offered to developers by Epic, Steam is more dominant than ever—and in the end, they all came crawlin' back.

They're all crawling back because they did not give it their best effort. They just wanted the full 100% of the sale revenue without doing the hard parts. To be fair to EA, for the first few years, it looked like they were actually going to try.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 13 points 17 hours ago

Yep same thing with all the streaming services, just taking the Netflix money was probably a better move for a lot of these services.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Eh, it's so easy to hop between streaming services that I don't have the same hangup there. You subscribe for a month, watch what you want to watch, cancel, and then go to the next one. You can always resubscribe later. When you buy a game on a given storefront, you're stuck with their feature set forever.

[-] exu@feditown.com 8 points 17 hours ago

As a user there simply was/is no incentive to use other stores when the game is the same price. There has to be a reason for me to buy somewhere else.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 25 points 22 hours ago

its more or less that yes. they saw the money but not the time and effort to get users to use your platform.

and its not like impossible, as long as you can create games people will play and stay at itll work (e.g Riot), but they legit put such little effort in the launchers that it was creating a negative user experience, and never put in the money to make it better.

[-] Funwayguy@lemmy.world 57 points 22 hours ago

As much as I agree the 30% cut can be a bit steep, I do appreciate that part of it is going into ongoing R&D like Steam Deck and Proton benefiting the whole gaming industry. I'd like to think of it like Valve are investing into PC innovation similarly to the way Playstation, Xbox and Nintendo do for their new consoles.

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 30 points 19 hours ago

If you have to choose an evil monopoly hell bent on world domination and bloodshed you might as well choose steam at least they are owned by a private individual instead of a hive mind distilled from the pure greed of capitalism.

[-] CEbbinghaus@lemmy.world 34 points 20 hours ago

But unlike valve the console R&D is limited to the consoles themselves. Valve is working to improve gaming for Linux in general and foster a more open and consumer friendly console system.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

A big part is going to buying yachts as well so Valve and Newell could 100% afford to charge a lot less than 30% and still do just as much r&d

To the downvoters: I hurt your feelings by saying that multibillionaire bad? :( Their money comes from your pockets, wake the fuck up.

https://luxurylaunches.com/transport/gabe-newell-luxury-yachts.php

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

AFAIK it falls to a lower percentage if you sell more copies. As to why I dont mind the fee as a consumer; valve invests its earnings into linux gaming and does cool shit like that. I can't remember the last time i aplauded ea or ubisoft or epic for doing something like that. Oh yeah.. it was never. Id sooner applaud Microsoft for investing into a non lucrative venture like accessible gaming accessories. But they aren't on the same playing field.. so from them, I'd expect it.

If i were a developer, I'd let valve eat the 30%. The amount of customers they bring to the table, deal with chargebacks, host the files. That shit isn't free. Epic has to take such a low amount because they don't have as many users and can't produce such sales numbers and don't have to deal with as many chargebcks and don't have to waste as much bandwidth hosting the files.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Again, they can afford their R&D while paying their employees more than the industry average and while making the owner a multibillionaire, they 100% could afford to lower their cut without any negative impact on everyone but Gabe Newell.

The lower % starts if a game sells enough copies to make 10m$, Valve has made 3m$ at that point.

Stop defending the people that make you poorer, they're not your friends, all billionaires exist at the expense of our wealth. All. Of. Them. Are. Evil.

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

Well I guess I'll just stop buying things then because all Im doing is contributing to some billionaire's cocaine fund. This is capitalism. I learned to live with it. When the time comes to sieze the means of production and give power back to the proletariat, I'll be there to help. Until then, I'd rather give Gabe my money so he can shove more ships up his ass than give it to Sweeney because at least Gabe will throw a penny back into linux gaming. Ill take the crumbs if I can get them because Im not a 21 year old student with a burning desire to change the system anymore.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago

There's a difference between dealing with it and defending it, you're doing the latter by saying 30% is ok because reasons.

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

And those "reasons" were plentiful. Most importantly is their market share. From a purely business perspective, if a distributor has 200% more users and charges 100% more while offering the same features, they will be the better choice - purely from en economical perspective. 30% is ok because you will reach a larger audience and if so many publishers disagreed with Steam's cut, they wouldnt all come crawlin' back would they? In other words, the market dictates the price and the market has decided that price is 30%. It doesnt matter who does or doesnt defend it. Thats what it is.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago

As to why I dont mind the fee as a consumer; valve invests its earnings into linux gaming and does cool shit like that.

You're also talking like they wouldn't have as many customers if they reduced their cut which is completely ridiculous. More profit would go to the people actually doing the work or prices would go down.

Stop defending the billionaire, you're making a fool of yourself.

[-] Kellamity@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago

I don't know why you're being down voted, he is literally a billionaire

'No ethical billionaires' apart from this guy apparently

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I've had this conversation so many times and some people just can't imagine that they might be paying more than they need to just so Gabe can collect yachts... People feel they're getting their money's worth because everything they've ever bought is priced based on the fact that there's multimillionaires and billionaires higher up the chain...

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago

Lemmy loves to shit on billionaires, until it's one they think they like.

[-] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 37 points 22 hours ago

When you make a trash launcher, people tend to ignore it. Who knew?

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 18 hours ago

You could create the best launcher in the world and people would ignore it because they don't want multiple launchers and their library is already centralized on Steam.

[-] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago

I'm starting to build up my GOG library quite a bit, and that launcher in its current state is still better than Ubisoft Connect.

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

I feel like both ubi and gog launchers are basically unusable. I have no idea why gog doesn't fix their shit

[-] JustMarkov@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

For GOG just use Heroic.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

Maybe.

But until there's an alternative that isn't outright disrespectful with how complete and utter dogshit it is it's hard to say that for sure.

Inertia matters. But so does the fact that no one has bothered putting the work in to not be a trainwreck.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 33 points 21 hours ago
[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 18 points 22 hours ago

Guillemot said the same thing in a subsequent trading update call with analysts.

So stockholders demanded it lol

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