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Signal Piracy group (signal.group)

I saw some threads here about Telegram and piracy stuff being banned. So, as an experimental alternative, I created a public Signal group for piracy.

Maybe it'll be useful?

Before joining

Signal supports usernames and hiding telephone numbers. Here's a blog entry on how to do so. You might want to:

  • set a username
  • change your profile name (these are two separate things!)
  • hide your phone number
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[-] Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 11 hours ago

What is even the point of "piracy groups"? What exactly can you find there that you cannot in other places designed for that, e.g., trackers, usenet, forums...?

[-] Untold1707@lemm.ee 64 points 21 hours ago

You might try a Matrix group instead. Doesn’t require a phone number and supports more than 1000 users unlike Signal. Search is bad though unfortunately.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 0 points 7 hours ago

Signal no longer require a phone number.

[-] riccardo@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago

It still requires a phone number to sign up, but you don't need to share it to chat with someone

[-] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago

Some suggest matrix, others simplex. Not sure which one would be better honestly

[-] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 3 points 16 hours ago

Tracker Control is blocking me from joining. Weird that Molly (its a hardened signal fork) is showing amazon is being contacted when trying to join the group.

I can unblock it but its weird. I also noticed the other domains its been trying to (unsuccessfully) contact.

[-] powermaker450@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 15 hours ago
[-] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 2 points 14 hours ago

Only for groups? Why thing else has worked fine for the 9months I've had signal.

[-] Unmapped@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago

I think signal servers may be using aws hosting.

[-] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 3 points 16 hours ago

Signal uses Amazon's servers, look it up. It's all encrypted of course.

Good idea overall, unfortunately they still have your IP and phone number which means Europeans are still implicated

[-] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 42 points 1 day ago

Signal doesn't collect IPs and therefore can't even hand them out. It's been requested in 2021. Here's a list of requests from authorities they were allowed to publish. I've looked through 3 of the most recent and nowhere do they reveal IPs.

Sure they don't log the IPs, but it is technically impossible to not know the IP when you're running a centralized service.

[-] lol@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 23 hours ago

IIRC, because of sealed sender, they can't know who you're communicating with, only that you're using Signal at all.

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 8 points 17 hours ago

I wrote a comment here about why sealed sender does not achieve what it purports to.

[-] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 22 hours ago

I didn't know that. Thanks

[-] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 1 day ago

What are the "popular" alternatives? Telegram stores everything, WhatsApp doesn't allow usernames, Matrix requires IPs too...

[-] JustMarkov@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago
[-] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 23 hours ago

Despite their claims of total privacy, I imagine, like any software company, they have full access to their own back end including encryption keys and server logs. Meaning they can and probably will moderate their own platform if there is enough pressure from nation states/IP owners.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago

You are welcome to audit the source code and host the backend yourself.

[-] DaGeek247@fedia.io 4 points 23 hours ago

You understand that, for everyone except for a complete network pro, that is worse for security and privacy, right?

Don't get me wrong, it's great that you can.

But the reason piracy websites struggle so much with long term stability isn't because they're hosting the wrong software.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

If you don't put trust on someone something, you left yourself to trust and do all the works. However, you don't trust yourself either, sadly I can't offer any solutions.

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[-] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago

TBH I would just use email over TOR and encrypt communication with PGP. Rotate identities every now and then and you should be fine. Yes it doesn't have forward secrecy but it removes the effort to find the "right messaging" service and is instead ubiquitous (and you can sign up for anonymous email addresses online too, which makes it even better).

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[-] geography082@lemm.ee 7 points 21 hours ago
[-] cyclicircuit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago

Is there a simplex group we can join?

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[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Will a simplex group better? Nothing identifiable.

[-] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 1 day ago

Make it and share it. I don't have simplex.

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[-] lemmus@szmer.info 3 points 22 hours ago

The problem is Signal supports up to 1000 people group chat, so it's better to find something different

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 9 points 19 hours ago

I can barely handle chat groups with 100 ppl.

[-] SomeOne@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 21 hours ago
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