I've been trying to find a more privacy-friendy alternative to Discord but I keep coming back to the issue of screen sharing. No other platform does it as smoothly.
The best I've found is using Parsec with some virtual audio cables to avoid voice feedback.
is there any sort of way to have the chat logs be public and searchable? the worst thing about discord being a walled garden is that all the info on it can only be accessed by a discord client.
Do you still have to use discord in order to use this?
I think the idea here is that you are running your own discord, and only people with modded clients can use it because its not approved by discord.
what about the screen sharing? muble for voice, matrix for communication but i cant find any suitable replacement for video
https://docs.spacebar.chat/faq/
Currently there is no voice or video support in any Spacebar instance. This is a very difficult feature to get working, especially given that we must implement it the exact same way as Discord.com for client compatibility. We would be incredibly thankful for any assistance.
Damn.
Discuss without voice, might aswell use IRC
Just use mumble for voice
Mumble is so underrated. It does one job and but does it very well.
Yeah I'd love to move my gang off discord but getting them to go back to team speak or vent is not happening
Mumble is another strong, open source, self-hosted option.
If only it didn't looked like a 20 year old software.
Some of the best stuff in the world looks like it's 20 years past a prime that isn't, because they're truly good eternal.
Maybe it's just me but I think the Mumble UI is way better than the Discord UI
Yay mumble!
And I agree: it's better. I think it's faster and that, IMHO, is where the power is. It can look boring like a hammer as long as it's intuitive ... like a hammer.
I don't know about the UX, but if you want peoples to use your app, it need to look nice.
I find the login page of discord intelorable, it has ugly EULA on it that I will never sign
It's voice chat, you choose a server and then minimize to tray, you never have to look at it...
This is cool to see, though I am sceptical, if it is a good idea to create a drop-in discord server, because this does not allow for the project to add E2EE "easily" without eliminating the drop-in capability.
It's a convenience over privacy thing. If the api is discord compatible you lose the e2e on that channel / server, or make the api e2e but then existing bots need modifying
I could see this being a toggle
That would require a custom client and eliminate the drop in feature. Sadly just adding a toggle does not work :/
Cool, what are some alternative discord clients to use with it ?
WebCord supports it.
Why not just use Matrix? I thought it was the goto FOSS and decentralized Discord alternative.
Matrix doesn't offer the same experience as discord. I'm sorry but it doesn't. I set up my own to compare to see if my friend group would like it, and it was quite a step backwards. Even in it's best platform element it was missing a lot of stuff from discord.
So, things like this I'd be very interested to watch. Revolt looked the most promising but it didn't offer federation, and I wasn't going to make everyone have a separate accountjust for our server
So this will be interesting. I will need at least voice to get them to come over, but I'll watch this project closely
i can agree with regards to a proper threads/forum feature which is not that amazing in element right now… but it appears we are moving fast towards element call integration everywhere. this means p2p video rooms if i am not mistaken. is there something else except user friendliness in ux that could be better?
Voice & screensharing seems to be the thing holding all of my friends chained to discord
I mean, it's a valid reason. I originally joined Discord back in 2016 because of it's easy to use voice. It became the standard for voice chat. Before that I had been using the Xbox party chat and other garbage voice systems.
We were using Skype... Dark days.
I think the original question could be about the protocol. Why not use Matrix as the protocol for the project? No one is doing the work to bring a Matrix-based Discord alternative because they're a) on Discord b) creatin IRC face-lifts like Element c) refusing to quit IRC d) making projects with bespoke protocols like this one. It's incredibly frustrating.
Unusably laggy no matter what instance you use.
i cant confirm that. especially in the light of the new sliding sync implemented in elementx. it’s a nightmare for admins but for users it should be fine
My instance is pretty fast. Run Conduwuit as the server, problem solved
2 questions:
As far as I can tell, it's not Discord, but an open source alternative. So I don't think it talks to regular discord servers, but you can use any Discord compatible client to talk to SpaceBarChat.
I don't think it talks to regular discord servers
So what does "Discord compatible" mean?
I tried this back when it was "FOSSCORD" and it did indeed connect to Discord.
Well, just glancing at it, it isn't discord. It doesn't connect to discord servers at all.
What it does is replicate discord, in a way that allows users to still make use of things that discord users are already into. Bots in particular.
So discord won't have access to anything that goes on at all, unless you're using something that also connects to discord.
Pop-ups and fake notifications would have more to do with the client you're using than the back-end would, so if you use a client that does those things, I wouldn't bet on that changing.
The caveat: I'm no dev of any kind, so I can't say anything about the actual code, I'm basing this on their own description. I linked the page to my cousin that sometimes will give a quick scan for hinky shit for me, but there's no telling if or when he'll do so nd get back to me.
This looks interesting, and if they can get VC & E2EE it will definitely be something I'll make the switch to from Matrix. As much as I love Matrix, it feels very messy and uncoordinated.
How does this compare to Revolt?
Revolt is kinda “centralized”. You can host your own version, but they seem to actively discourage you from doing so.
is it… of value having something like this while matrix and element is a thing? i find these things interesting, but not sure if they are justifyable to deploy…
For me, the benefit of discord is not the text chat but the voice aspect. With push to talk/voice activated transmission and low latency for gaming.
The voice features of matrix are more of a conference call thing.
Until this gets implemented in matrix (not sure if ever) I'll continue hosting mumble (or TeamSpeak)
Spacebar looks great, and is exactly what I want, but it doesn't look close to production ready yet
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