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What does wearing a sign help?
Check it out; the version of ethics hexbear and .ml want everyone to have.
Your simple western brain can't imagine how good this is for everyone.
Worker’s paradise.
"Hey China how's it going?"
[this article]
“Echoes of the country’s political past”??? lol
The past is what, yesterday?
tomorrow 😆
There's no public shaming for anything (except the fraud and sex offender registry if that counts) anymore, for better or worse.
Sure. Just private shaming.
That hasn't made it anywhere besides a little more adoption of bank credit.
"This doesn't exist except it does." Gotcha. Also, that is not what the link says. It does say it was finally abandoned though... last year.
I don't sympathize with their current leadership, but social credit never was really a thing. Zhima Credit was indeed a big thing, but it was banking credit and quite frequently got conflated with these voluntary systems. I was in school in Hangzhou—one of the biggest trials according to the article—for four years until mid 2022, and I didn't think it was a thing because it was too small to be noticed or talked about in class.
Participation is fully voluntary and there are no enticement beyond losing access to minor rewards. For fear of overreach and pushback, the Chinese central government banned punishments for low scores and minor offences.[15] During the city trials, pilot programs only saw limited participation.[20] Many people living in pilot program cities are unaware of the programs.[20] In Xiamen, 210,059 users activated their social credit account, roughly 5 percent of the population of Xiamen; 60,000 or 1.5 percent of population in Wuhu participated the system; Hangzhou has 1,872,316 (15 percent) participants and fewer regularly use the system.
And no, bank credit is not the same thing at all. That's just your average American credit score but embedded in a monolith.
You do know I can read, yes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System#Blacklists
That's just a fraud offender registry, which I have listed as one of the only forms of kind of–public shaming. It's not been shut down as part of the social credit shutdowns and only financial stuff can put you there.
Ah yes, not being allowed to ride a train. A standard punishment for financial fraud.
Like I said, it's kind of public shaming indeed. I'm not sure how to feel about it.
Because everyone knows you can't ride the train? How?
what are we arguing for here lol
You said being barred from riding trains is public shaming. I'm asking how that is public shaming. How does the public know about it?
I was sort of thinking more about the effects: it's a punishment that only causes kind of–petty discomfort. I'd agree that it's not really public shaming, hence there's not really any judicial public shaming in China anymore.
Which is why I said it was private shaming.
Ooh, I get it now.
Liar.
it's on Wikipedia and backed up by reliable sources
OP omits the context that they posted this as a joke/meme. Still horrifying, like if you parodied the Nazi-era Star of David.
I don't omit the context. They say it was intended as a joke after it backfired on social media, and the company's apology - as the article states - is somewhat quiet (on the other hand, the Chinese government - usually not averse to censor content it deems unpleasant - apparently had no problem with it).
That's an interesting point, but you didn't discuss that either. I understand that it may not have been your intention to mislead, but my first impression of the headline is that this was an actual punishment.
Suppose you see such posts on social media, would you really think, "Ah, that's a funny joke", and laugh about it?
As the article suggests, there haven't been too many with that sense of humor to say the least.
Ah, I was expecting to see tankies in here attacking the use of a joke to make Chinese companies seem authoritarian... But the full context suddenly makes clear why they aren't touching it.
Ah, the Workers' Self-Discipline, no doubt
“The crime of forgetting to include a straw”
THE BASTARD!
Why does a loving God make these evil people?
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