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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's utter nonsense. Communes predate capitalism by thousands of years. The first known settled town was a commune. There are no detectable hierarchies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87atalh%C3%B6y%C3%BCk#Economy

Currency wouldn't even exist for a good 5000 years after Çatalhöyük.

As far as "ultimately" failing, it lasted at least 900 years, which much is longer than most countries around today have been in existence.

Nice try though.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So... towns existed thousands of years ago... not sure what that proves about anything.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

This is what you said:

Even communes ultimately fail because hierarchies form within the commune, and the people at the bottom get tired of doing all the work and leave. That’s even when they aren’t deciding the laws and don’t have to worry about national defense. When communists are deciding the laws and have control over national defense, then oh yeah… there’s gonna be a hierarchy.

Çatalhöyük was a commune. There were no hierarchies, no division of labor between class or gender. It lasted 900 years. It predated capitalism by millennia.

I'm not sure why you don't understand why that proves you wrong.