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I am unfamiliar with this topic, can someone explain to me what this person got wrong?
I don't see how indigenous movements using a name that was originally used by only few peoples puts the whole of indigenous peoples in a monolith.
They're also acting like indigenous people have to treat their culture as undead. Existing, but not changing. The Navajo may have not used the term 'Turtle Island' before colonization, but it doesn't mean Navajo people post-colonisation can't adopt the word as part of a greater pan-indigenous movement of solidarity against the horrors of colonisation.
Undeath is an ideal of neoliberalism, they want everyone to be a mindless zombie or a soulless automaton because that's the only way their ideology works
yeah, i think they think maybe that 'turtle island' is bad, only the few bad apples of all indigenous peoples use it; then the rest must prefer the only alternative, i.e. the default, i.e. the status quo, i.e. what is in their material interest
why can't other indigenous groups prefer turtle island even if it isn't their ideal name? why would it be thought that an indigenous group/tribe/band would be spoken for by settler-colonials instead of engage in solidarity with one another, especially other's who share the same goals?
This reply was actually pretty good:
Fascinating stuff, thanks!
Even if they are right (and likewise I’m too ignorant on this to know) this comes across as concern trolling given the context. If they were making this criticism to the activists as another activist it could be a completely reasonable criticism but theyre making the comment in an r/neoliberal thread where theyre trying to make themselves feel better about being the beneficiaries of colonialism.
Oh yeah, it's 100% concern trolling, but it's useful to understand why it's wrong.